AyanamiKun Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 During a game last weekend with Necrons we were unsure if the Scarab Swam with attached Necron Lord (with destroyer body) still counted as fearless or not. The rules in our German rulebook did not sound very clear to us (reminder to self: never buy German rulebook ever again!) so I would like to ask you about this. The Scarabs are fearless, the Lord is not. What happens when they are joined and in close combat. The unit looses and must make a morale test. Are they now fearless or not? We know that some special rules are transfered to the attached IC and the other way around to the unit but is this one of them? Thanks in advance! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Does the USR have an asterisk attached to it? That's how you tell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2828864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 The english rules for 'Fearless' on page 75 of the big rulebook are not really ambiguous at all about it. "This special rule is gained by any independent character joining a fearless unit. However, as long as a fearless character stays with a unit that is not fearless, he loses this special rule." Was that part really not translated in the german rulebook? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2828868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyanamiKun Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 Thanks, I don't have the book with me but either we were both high (on coffee! :D ) or the German version is really bad. I will check when I get home! Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2828874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyanamiKun Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 The english rules for 'Fearless' on page 75 of the big rulebook are not really ambiguous at all about it. "This special rule is gained by any independent character joining a fearless unit. However, as long as a fearless character stays with a unit that is not fearless, he loses this special rule." Was that part really not translated in the german rulebook? I just checked my book. The German translation keeps the part about an IC loosing it when it joins a non fearless unit but does not contain the part that an IC joining a fearless unit gains it... Crappy translations... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2829069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I just checked my book. The German translation keeps the part about an IC loosing it when it joins a non fearless unit but does not contain the part that an IC joining a fearless unit gains it... Crappy translations... hmmm that's very odd. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2829306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyanamiKun Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 Yeah ... I own C:SM twice because of such things. One in German, one in English ;) The English one is much better worded... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2829369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I wonder if they outsource their translations...or if they just have college interns do it for them. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2829396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro_Protagonist Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Probably just run it through Yahoo translator and hope for the best! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2829471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorticone Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 The german translation of the rulebook and the codexes (sp?) is really awful. I am so glad I ordered the english versions since whenever a rules discussion comes up and my mates pick up their german books I can cross-check the english/original version against it. AyanamiKun: I am not sure if you know the forum tabletopwelt.de, however there is a nice big thread about translation errors in the german translation of the rulebook and codexes. You can find it here: http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/showthread.php?t=105198 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2829765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyanamiKun Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thanks! I didn't know that, very helpful. :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234942-unit-with-fearless-and-attached-ic/#findComment-2829848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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