Plaguecaster Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hey everyone I have decided to collect chaos marines as my second Warhammer 40k army after reading the Horus heresy books especially liking the Deathguard. I am trying to make up my own renegade chapter from the Iron hands Geneseed but am stuck on reasons why they would turn traitor worshiping Nurgle any advice will be appreciated cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbo7788 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 You have the most classic of all reasons: one of their fleet is traped in a warp storm and contaminated by nurgle... like Death Guard ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2829750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papewaio Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 There's plenty of ways to fall into the gooey, benevolent and unhealthy embrace of Grandfather Nurgle! You just need a bit of imagination. It could be a slow corruption, starting with one Marine, possibly high-ranking, that is captured by Nurgle worshippers and given a new outlook on the Imperium. That one marine could spell damnation for the entire Chapter. It could happen over a matter of weeks; a disease might start eating away at their bionics and there's only one god who can stop it. You could even go so far as to start it with the bionics - a corrupted design by some long-forgotten renegade techpriest is implanted into the Chapter Master, triggering an inevitable slide into diseased disillusionment. These are only some ideas. Go nuts! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2829762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Monkey Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I reckon the best way to go is to look at why people fall into the worship of nurlge. Ask yourself some questions and see what comes up. What dose Nurgle offer his followers, aside from big bellies and lots of flies? What is the beleif system of tyour chapter? What aspects would cross over between the two above answers? What would force a chapter to abandon the emperor? (eg. percieved slight by imperial forces, isolated from the astromonican?) from that you could get let the corruption begin. As the prev posters have stated you could go down the infected bionics or lost in warp route, but its ben done before and IMO it's quite lazy. Personally Id go with a corruption of the chapter's cult, youd get a bit more milage and make it a bit easier for the reader to sympathise with the decent into chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2829813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I am thinking of making the Chief Librarian get captured by the Deathguard who show him the glory of Nurgle, when his chapter rescues him he slowly corrupts the chapter into the worship of Nurgle, an Inquisitor will discover the taint condemning the chapter as heretics forcing them to flee to the eye of terror. So far I have come up with that they are a feral world based chapter called the Ghost Knights and am trying to make their beliefs have to do with death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2830528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I am thinking of making the Chief Librarian get captured by the Deathguard who show him the glory of Nurgle, when his chapter rescues him he slowly corrupts the chapter into the worship of Nurgle, an Inquisitor will discover the taint condemning the chapter as heretics forcing them to flee to the eye of terror. So far I have come up with that they are a feral world based chapter called the Ghost Knights and am trying to make their beliefs have to do with death. Problem with that is that the Chapter's Chaplains aren't just gonna let him be put right back into the chapter without some serious tests. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2830615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Problem with that is that the Chapter's Chaplains aren't just gonna let him be put right back into the chapter without some serious tests. Agreed, especially given that Librarians are only half trusted in most Chapters at the best of times. I'd be more inclined to use the Chapter Cult idea, perhaps make them recruit from a death obsessed world (like the Mortifactors) and go from there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2830718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbo7788 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 If your chapter is a descendant of the Iron Hands, you could choose a charismatic Iron Father instead of a Librarian. It would be easier to explain the conversion of the chapter to Nurgle... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2830752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyronusSouria Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 What about this? After suffering a terrible wound on [Planet], the Chapter Master recovers, but is told by his Chief Apothecary that the wound, through an unknown agent, has damaged his Black Carapace, as well as a number of other extra organs. Due to this damage, he can no longer don any power armour, nor can he be interred in a Dreadnought. Driven mad by his inability to serve the Emperor, he makes a pact with Nurgle to restore his organs so that he may serve again. Nurgle obliges him, he gets corrupted, corrupts the Chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2830759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 What about this? After suffering a terrible wound on [Planet], the Chapter Master recovers, but is told by his Chief Apothecary that the wound, through an unknown agent, has damaged his Black Carapace, as well as a number of other extra organs. Due to this damage, he can no longer don any power armour, nor can he be interred in a Dreadnought. Driven mad by his inability to serve the Emperor, he makes a pact with Nurgle to restore his organs so that he may serve again. Nurgle obliges him, he gets corrupted, corrupts the Chapter. I like it sounds very awesome will change it around a bit but sounds perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235004-reasons-for-turning-traitor/#findComment-2830794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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