Captain Semper Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 ***Blood Reaver spoilers ahead*** After finishing ADB's "Blood Reaver" (which I enjoyed and found interesting on many levels) I was left with the feeling that something is going on with the Antramentar in the end. While the Covenant is burning the Exalted/Vandred is alone on the bridge save of a few servitors. On the other hand he has already given the order "abandon ship" so all Claws have scrambled to board the "Echo of Damnation". But the Antramentar are not with them. They are not with their Lord in his final moments - so where are they? Did they leave the bridge go to another room of the Covenant to die? I don't buy that! Talos seems to think they went down with the Covenant but Uzas says it's not like them to do so and in fact Talos agrees... Obviously they are not on the Echo or they would have made themselves known (why wouldn't they?) and Ruven wouldn't have considered raising 1st Claw to Atramentar status if they were (like he had a chance ;) ) So what happened to them? Is their dissapearence linked to Malek's order to Deltrian to preserve the War Sage's sarcophagus? The Antramentar characters worked very well in the novel as catalysts but never led any particular plot line. So basing one on them in the future would be a real surprise - especially next to much more developed characters... So what have I missed? Anybody? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Well, we did only see the initial few confused and anarchic moments of the refugees boarding the Echo so it's entirely possible that they made it, but that Talos just didn't see them. After all, a ship is a big place, and they have more than one launch bay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2830051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Maybe... But unlikely. If they were to actually board the "Echo" they'd be the most senior Night Lords on board and they'd assume command right away. Plot wise it make sense for them NOT to be on board so Talos' leadership would go unchallenged (initially at least). So logically they are not on the Echo and I don't see them staying in the Covenant to die for no reason. So the question still stands. Where are they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2830125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unguis Raptus Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I take it you haven't read ADB's short story The Core in Fear The Alien, it takes place after Blood Reaver and ends on an interesting point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2830129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 No I haven't! I was not even aware of this. Thx I'll look it up. God there is so much stuff to read just to be up to date... So little time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2830136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I thought that took place before Blood Reaver? I haven't read it though, so forgive my ignorance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2830520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Maybe their shuttle was shut down on the way to the Echo? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2830651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I thought that took place before Blood Reaver? I haven't read it though, so forgive my ignorance. "The core" takes place after Blood reaver, they are onboard the 'Echo' not on the 'covenant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2831143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of the Atramentar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2831244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of the Atramentar. A D-B does nothing without a reason. We've even got that Titan Princeps kicking around in a glass jar at the end of "Blood Reaver." :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2831463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 And the mysterious Dreadnought sarcophagus. Which may or may not be explained in The Core. :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2831464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unguis Raptus Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of the Atramentar. A D-B does nothing without a reason. We've even got that Titan Princeps kicking around in a glass jar at the end of "Blood Reaver." :teehee: Yeah... really want to say things... If you've read his other stuff you should definitely give it a read, it goes hand in hand with another short story from the book Prometheus Requiem written from a different point of view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2831476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 It seems "Fear the Alien" is a must read. I hope it sheds some light on the Atramentar. The princeps is a lose end but I'd expect some plot lone coming out of it... No mystery per se. The fate of the Atramentar is a bit of, well, a mystery after Blood Reaver. I'll revert after I read the Fear the Alien. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235027-where-did-the-atramentar-go/#findComment-2831735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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