rusty1109 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hi all, I think the answer to this is yes but I'm not sure, Situation: Squad of marines fires bolt pistols at a unit they want to charge. The sergeant however has a combiweapon that has fired it's alternate shot already and a powerfist. I think the sergeant HAS to shoot as well using his combiweapon as a standard bolter which being rapid fire means the squad as a whole is unable to charge, Is that right? Cheers in advance and sorry for two simple questions in one day! Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Not at all. You choose fire (or not fire) any weapons they have. You simply choose to not fire with your sergeant and presto, you can assault. This is covered in the shooting rules section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If the sergeant fires a rapid-fire weapon this will prevent the whole unit from charging. However, the sergeant is not required to fire simply because some of the models in the unit fired their pistols (BRB, Pg.16, last paragraph). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 when you shoot with a unit, you should declare "before hand" if you are shooting all of their weapons, or some, or just 1. My friend usually does this with his leman russ with 3 heavy bolter sponsons, if fighting my marines, if his battle cannon hits, he doesn't want to cause wounds via heavy bolters as this will let me wound allocation some of the ap3 hits away. but if the battle cannon scatters he will want to shoot the bolters to try and kill some. So before he shoots it he declares that he will fire everything, or just the battle cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 but if the battle cannon scatters he will want to shoot the bolters to try and kill some. So before he shoots it he declares that he will fire everything, or just the battle cannon. This is actually against the rules. You need to declare before firing anything what in a unit will and will not fire. This is so your opponent can't avoid wound allocation...which is precisely what he's doing. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Declaring beforehand is actually what the friend does, if I read nurglez' post correctly. It's just worded a bit poorly :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Declaring beforehand is actually what the friend does, if I read nurglez' post correctly. It's just worded a bit poorly :) Ah, there we are then. BTW Gurth...your avatar has always creeped me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Declaring beforehand is actually what the friend does, if I read nurglez' post correctly. It's just worded a bit poorly ;) Ah, there we are then. BTW Gurth...your avatar has always creeped me out. What are you a communist? Do not say such slanderous things about freind computer! Please report to the nearest exicution chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 BTW Gurth...your avatar has always creeped me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Ahh, Paranoia. What an utterly fantastic game that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Ahh, Paranoia. What an utterly fantastic game that was. You're not cleared for that, citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Yes, sorry for the poor wording, was in a rush as I had to get back to work heh. My point is, I normally shoot with everything, unless I specify. With wound allocation shenanigans, sometimes it is better to shoot less weapons. My friend does usually declare, and also usually shoots everything if he hasn't declared that he wont. Sometimes in the heat of the moment you just rush to shooting, and maybe you fully intended to only shoot the battle cannon (in my friend's situation), but if you don't declare that you are only shooting 1 weapon, we play that you shoot all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 You know, I have no idea how many clones I have left...but seems like it was enough. Whew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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