Guardian11 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I just need to clarify if using the shrouding power on a vehicle gives it a 6+ or 4+ cover save. I always get different answers on the matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I just need to clarify if using the shrouding power on a vehicle gives it a 6+ or 4+ cover save. I always get different answers on the matter. If the vehicles was not in cover shrounding grants it a 6++ save, if the vehicles was already in cover the power gives it the "stealth" rules boosting his cover save to 3++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2834367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Or a 2++, depending on if the attck is against a side that is not the one facing the attacker due to LoS (per the BRB). SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2834649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Or a 2++, depending on if the attck is against a side that is not the one facing the attacker due to LoS (per the BRB). Um...what? Where is this coming from? If a vehicle is visually Obscurred or Smoked, it can get a 4+. Under Shrouding, it gets a 3+. The firing unit can only fire at the side of the tank that it's in the arc of...it can't choose what side it's shooting at beyond moving. Is this the confusion? Otherwise, whatever side the firing unit is shooting at only determines what AV they roll against to pen. If you see only a tiny bit of the tank, you can still shoot at it and it's at best getting a 4+ cover (3+ with Shrouding). Beyond that, how else can a vehicle get a 2+ cover, even in the GK codex? I don't believe they can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2834828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-the-white-lizard- Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Its in the Rulebook, if the arc of the vehicle they are in is not visible, they may attempt to shoot at another visible side/arc but adding +1 to the cover save of the vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2834853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 If you cannot LoS the side that is facing you, but you can LoS a side that is not directly facing you, the vehicle gets a 3+ cover save (2+ with Shrouding), bottom of pg62 of the BRB. Use to park my Land Raiders behind barriers so that my sponsons had clear LoS, but main body was 100% obscured, for a 3+ cover save. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2834855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Or a 2++, depending on if the attck is against a side that is not the one facing the attacker due to LoS (per the BRB). SJ Exactly... in other words if you are in cover just improve your save by 1 :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2835107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 ...bottom of pg62 of the BRB... This...has not come up for me since I started playing. I'd completely forgotten about it. @_@ Well, this is fantastic! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2835186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 ...bottom of pg62 of the BRB... This...has not come up for me since I started playing. I'd completely forgotten about it. @_@ Well, this is fantastic! I have forgotten about it, too. I re-discovered it as soon as I started to re-read the BRB to solve other "rule disputes" :P At my local store only few players know this rule :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2835214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I've been using it since 5th came out, because gosh darn it I wanted my Land Raiders to survive! SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2835589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I thought that if you were not in cover, the shrouding provided you with a 6+ cover save that was increased to 5+ due to also granting the "Stealth" USR. Am I reading that wrong then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2835856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Yeah you are. The rule says it grants 'Stealth' to units with a cover save, OR a 6+ cover save if they don't have a cover save. So no, your tanks get a 6+ in the open, not a 5+. Still pretty good IMO, especially when you pop smoke (3+ cover ftw). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2835865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hm. Will have to go back and re-read that section. Good to know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235371-shrouding-question/#findComment-2835889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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