Marshal Rohr Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I guess life reflects art. Chaos is whiny, the players are whiny. Chaos is constantly defeated, the players are constantly defeated. Indeed. This is a very good comparison. I guess life reflects art. The Black Templars are hypocritical, the players are hypocritical. The Black Templars are close-minded bigots, the players are close-minded bigots. Funny eh? Indeed, a comparison I have drawn myself :) I guess life reflects art. Chaos is whiny, the players are whiny. Chaos is constantly defeated, the players are constantly defeated. Indeed. This is a very good comparison. Whatever, dude. The Black Templar section was just as whiny, and lost just as much, until the GW BT update. We don't whine. We inquire up the chain of command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 We don't whine. We inquire up the chain of command. What in the hell is a 'chain of command'? I used a chain to strangle a loyalist astartes once, is that it? ;) :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGuardVortek Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Well Crusaders, I'm please to see you took my jab with good humor. I'm pretty sure a "chain of command" is something used in more orderly(read less awesome chapters without booze), to determine who reports to who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 *Sigh* It was a joke, dude. We're Chaos, a solid dependable COC has been non-existant for us for 10,000 years. I know very, very well what a COC is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 *Sigh* It was a joke, dude. We're Chaos, a solid dependable COC has been non-existant for us for 10,000 years. I know very, very well what a COC is. Actually the Chaos CoC is exactly like the Ork CoC. Whoever's the biggest MFBA is the leader. It's quite simple, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGuardVortek Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I figured you knew 1000Heathens, I was making a joke as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 The chain of command is something that us chaos lords beat the lower troops with until they do what we say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykosis Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 really? i thought the chain of command was what slaanesh worshipers used to flog catured sisters of battle and eldar slaves with? go figure its not as cool as the BDSM fantasy i had going.......sad days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 really? i thought the chain of command was what slaanesh worshipers used to flog catured sisters of battle and eldar slaves with? go figure its not as cool as the BDSM fantasy i had going.......sad days It's a multiple use device. Useful for subduing minions or getting kicks from other pursuits. Not as useful as duct tape or high explosives, but still quite useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 now you mention it...the chain of command does sound like a slaaneshi daemon weapon! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 @Vortek: Sorry bro, my fault. 3 Hours of sleep at that point; My sense-o-humour meter was shot, lol. The beatings will continue until morale improves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring-around-the-roses Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 "Chain of Command, so thats what Huron keeps going on about. I thought he was talking about those chicks he's got stashed in his arming chambers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_giles Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 really? i thought the chain of command was what slaanesh worshipers used to flog catured sisters of battle and eldar slaves with? go figure its not as cool as the BDSM fantasy i had going.......sad days If you're a Word Bearer, I would imagine they could go either way. They worship Slaanesh (amongst the other dark gods), but they still have a fair bit of hierarchy going on considering they've still got chaplains and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 A dark and evil heirarchy and a military chain of command are two entirely different things though, brother. If my Sergeant Major ever guts a goat and starts to read the entrails during a promotion board, I'll reverse my opinion... Edit: spelling and rephrasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 A dark and evil heirarchy and a military chain of command are two entirely different things though, brother. If my Sergeant Major ever guts a goat and starts to read the entrails during a promotion board, I'll reverse my opinion... Yours doesn't? What's his MOS? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring-around-the-roses Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Of course his commander doesn't gut a goat, that would be silly. Everybody knows that gutting Astartes gives MUCH better readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possessed Marine Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 this absolutely should be stickied, required reading, well the OP at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring-around-the-roses Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 "And noe children, let me tell you what it means to be a traitor marine, as handed down to us from on high..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 @Jeske: Dude, if you'd like to explain how the Chaos warbands of 40k, who slit each others throats for each others armour and weapons, kill each other to take control of other warbands / the same warband over and over, who abandon each other to enemy attack to better their position, who scream 'Burn Maim Kill' as they rampage across a battlefield heedless of tactics or their own impending death, who allow Daemons to control their flesh, douse their bloodstreams with cocktails of euphoric combat drugs, and live in a literal translation of Hell are anything like a stable, disciplined modern day military chain of command...I'm all ears. @Khestra: 19Z...He's more of a 'burn, maim, kill' kinda guy... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 My only response to this, is that if you are to truly understand chaos, then you must stop complaining, for the gods care not. the few that are remembered, are remembered for their deeds, not for the constraints the Imperium has tried to impose upon them. and now in translation. those that complain about chaos, I find do not stay within the fold for very long. sure, we may have more hurdles then our rivals, however, the fact that we still win in spite of this says alot about the true players within the chaos community by and large. the fact that chaos consistently gets nerfed also says alot about the community. We adapt, grow stronger, and overcome the obstacles set before us. and the players that do constantly win are remembered for it. I play both orks and chaos, and am proud to say I am a member of both communities. Why? Because the people within are colorful, talented gamers that are not in it for the win, although that is always a plus, but are in it for the feel and flavor of their chosen army. I don't envy the marine players, nor any of the other 'popular' army players. The ones that pick them only because they win, will see the error of their ways when they come up against someone who has a battle hardened list. yes, it is true, marines are popularised for now, But it will break down eventually, Not everyone can or will be another marine player. But until that day comes, where chaos stands proud and defiant once more, those of us that are the strong players, the ones that are the elite of our chosen army, will still fly our banner in the face of the loyalists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 This isn't really complaining it's just having fun. There are other threads to complain. For those of you that think complainers don't last long, most of us that've played chaos since 3.5 are the ones that complain. Some do drop and player other armies/codexes but most of us are still around. We play them because we love the fluff and models mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 true enough Tanith... however, the vets of 3.5 are what I consider the "good ol' boys" of chaos... What, for my own right, are the the people I speak of, are those that speak ill of chaos, simply because they don't win with the army, or get frustrated because they cannot figure out how to play their own lists. So they either create a cookie-cutter army, that has no uniqueness, or shift over to one of the more "easy-mode" armies. Looking at Chaos as a pure gaming standpoint, which is something I rarely do. I would consider Chaos a intermediate to hard level army to play. The reason for this is because tactics aside, the builds that are out there, are actually fairly easy to beat if you study them carefully. To develop tactics of your own for a chaos army that work best for you against the opponents that you can presumably be facing off against, is a relatively hard thing to do. Nominally, because a great deal of players out there, play an army that is very similar to ours, only with better choices of equipment, and a far greater supply of specialized units that are capable of laying down a world of hurt. With that in mind, and with lists that are at this time, pre-built to lose, Chaos players HAVE to be on their toes as far as tactics go, which a good portion of the newer players are, let's face it, not willing to do. Simply put, those that look at bygone days, wishing that things would be equalized yet again, are not the ones that annoy me, it's the "lolz i r win" generation of gamers that are coming into the fold, and are simply all turning to the easy mode armies because armies such as ours require them to actually take a moment and actually think. /end rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 applauds...i agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Simply put, those that look at bygone days, wishing that things would be equalized yet again, are not the ones that annoy me, it's the "lolz i r win" generation of gamers that are coming into the fold, and are simply all turning to the easy mode armies because armies such as ours require them to actually take a moment and actually think. Actually I ran into a couple of these players a month ago or so, they were around my age so I thought they'd be decent and play because they like their armies and fluff but alas....one was a SW player the other was BA, neither of which had their armies even basecoated and really it seemed they only went to tournaments to play. That kinda made me a bit mad when I learned that last bit. There are even some here on the B&C that oftentimes will pop over here and tell us to stop complaining etc etc and just say to learn our codex. That just makes me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Is it so hard to use youre head during a battle? Or am i one of the few who can beat a Marine list (any type) with an "outdated" codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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