wartoy Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Hello all, I have been playing marine bikes for 2 years now and the topic of close combat came up. I am so sure I didn't dream this. I could have sworn I read that bikes DO NOT get the extra attack for 2 close combat waepons. Bike get 1 base attack, +1 for the charge, but NOT +1 for two close combat weapons. Now I can't find that to save my life. Please don't tell me I made that up. Help me out with page number and paragraph if anyone cann find this. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Any model with two close combat weapons gets the +1 attack; there is no limitation like there used to be. You didn't make it up, as it existed previously only in the Chaos Space Marine codex in 2002. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2835650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wartoy Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 I finally figured out where I got that idea of bikers only having 1 attack in close combat and not +1 for second CC weapon. Now remember I can quote chapter and verse about MARINE bikers. If you are orks then your are on your own. As for marines... THe discussion was whether or not a marine biker gets a +1 attack for 2nd close combat weapon. According to the Core Rules... A squad in close combat get it's base attacks (1 for marine bikers), +1 for the charge, +1 for having 2nd close combat weapon. According the the Space Marine Codex... A marine bike squad is equipted with the following wargear weapons, bolt pistol, frag & krak grenades. Based on the above information Space Marines DO NOT get an extra attack for +1 close combat weapons in close combat not because they are on bikes but simply because they are not equipted nor have the option to buy a second close combat weapon. Thanks for the help fellas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2835693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan VK Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You could solve that problem by forsaking the False Emperor and switching to the Chaos Space Marine Codex. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2835740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Sergeants can buy an extra CCW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2836164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytool Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sergeants can buy an extra CCW. Actually only 2 (sm and variants minus chaos)bike sq's that I know of can add a CC weapon to their bike models to get a +1 attack, SM command sq that have been upgraded to be bikes and (Dark Angels)Ravenwing attack squadrons Sergeants. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2836691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Space Wolves Swift Claws are smart enough to pack a Bolt Pistol and a CCW in addition to the TL Bolter mounted on thier bikes... And yes, they get their base Attack plus one for two CCWs plus charge bonus (in their case it's +2 for charging for a total of 4 Attacks on the charge). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2836698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 That's why I use them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2836699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Now all you have to do is charge them (command squad) out of a Land Raider. ::runs and hides from Inquisition:: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235473-bikes-in-close-combat/#findComment-2836735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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