BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 It makes sense from RAI if you consider PotW to be a close combat attack. To me it's certainly not a shooting attack. G :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235835-how-best-to-transport-a-librarian-in-a-rhino-army/page/2/#findComment-2842851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 It makes sense from RAI if you consider PotW to be a close combat attack. To me it's certainly not a shooting attack. I mean...it's neither. It's feedback; it's "more than you can chew". It's weird. It should either never allow the 2++ vs. Perils or always allow it; that it only functions in melee feels like an oversight and bothers me, honestly. But, there it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235835-how-best-to-transport-a-librarian-in-a-rhino-army/page/2/#findComment-2842867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 I recently beat a count as blood angels army: 1750 points. 1x libby blood lance sword of sanguinus 10 man tactical 1x lascannon 1x plasma gun 10 man tactical 1x lascannon 1x melta gun 6x scouts camo cloaks combi melta rocket launcher snipers 5x vanguard 2x power fist 3x power weapon 3x land speeder tornado 2-3x heavy bolters 3x land speeder tornado 2-3x heavy flamers 1x dreadnought with missile launcher and twin linked lascannon 5x devastator marines 4x rocket launchers +1 ballistic skill thing I used the librarian with the inquisitor's retinue in the chimera supported by 4 rhinos and 3x 10 man strike squads with 2 psycannons each and a thunder hammers and a 10 man prufier unit with 8 halberds and 2 psycannons with 2 psycannon dreads. I won by the end of turn 6 and i had: 1 fully operational dreadnought a rhino without its storm bolter a 3 man strike squad with 2 psycannons and a thunder hammer a 2 man strike squad with 2 psycannons a full 10 man strike squad with no casulties a 9 man purifier unit that lost one psycannon Plus my librarian with no wounds. we played with 4 buildings, one was a bastion on a 4 by 4 table. And he had first turn and i didn't combat squad or reserve a single thing. I and my opponent also never got a psychic power off whenever we were within range of each other and i failed my first 2-3 leadership tests for my grey knights. thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235835-how-best-to-transport-a-librarian-in-a-rhino-army/page/2/#findComment-2858478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Why not just hide him inside a Paladin combat squad or a Terminator blob? Enemy anti-tank is close to useless against them (oh hai 2+armour/3+ cover and 10 ablative wounds), you make other armies cry with how much carnage they inflict in close-combat (WS5 or a lot of WS4 attacks, S6 after buffs, 2D6 against armour, I6 due to halberds, auto-ID if you take the Bro Banner etc). They also get you more boots on the ground, scoring in the case of Troop Terminators. If you're going to hide him inside a tank, you'll have to accept it's going to draw every gun in enemy lines at it. Especially if he's with weak T3 infantry, that lower majority Toughness on him (if you go the Coteaz route). Thats largely why I don't feel comfortable taking the alternative of the Stormraven, it's just such a fire magnet that I can't use it as a transport, only as an expensive gunship. Both options are AV12, which everyone meta's for when taking anti-tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235835-how-best-to-transport-a-librarian-in-a-rhino-army/page/2/#findComment-2859201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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