dswanick Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 1. Allow me to agree with those praising your sculpting skills. 2. I would like to see a size comparison between your TWs and the GW Canis before declaring it "too small". According to the fluff, Canis' mount is the biggest so all other TW mounts should be smaller in comparison. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Nice models This is a joke so please take it as one: Are the Grey Hunters the fabled headless wolves? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 they are bloodclaws going on a "headless" charge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 they are bloodclaws going on a "headless" charge She said they were Grey Slayers Hunters. funny pun none the less though :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 haha, love your work, and love your attitude Euphrati. We've definitely got a skilled young whelp added to the ranks here :D I like the posing, love the detail... but as others have said, I'd say the size is off. Considering the images your working from, and the look your going for, have you considered using Chaos Bloodcrushers as a base? With your GS skills you could turn those models into some beautifully monstrous thunder wolves, hell I'd even pay for ya to do some for me! :) (I'm going to attempted the aforementioned job myself in the near future, but my GS skills couldn't hold a candle to your own). I know some of the more current information describes that Thunder wolves are around 8' at the shoulder, but considering they're been ridden by Space Marines who are 10' tall, that seems a tad off to me, seeming more like the size of Fenrisian Wolves. The older fluff is that Fenris is home to wolves who can grow as large as a rhino. That to me sounds more like something a Space Wolf would ride, and is why I'm going to be using Bloodcrushers as the base model for my Thunderwolves. (I also use Chaos Warhounds as my Fenrisian wolves, so the comparative shape and size will make them look like a bigger brother to my Fenrisian wolves). However, regardless of what else I may think of the job you've done, the sheer skill involved deserves some of my personal ale supply. *points his thumb over his shoulder at the barrel in the corner behind him* go dip your drinking horn in some of that, but be warned, it's got a bit of a kick ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphrati Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 Yes, they are currently headless as the heads are being trimmed up before basecoating. Poor Skol, everyone thinks you are too small! What happened to 'size doesn't matter' boys? I'm going to see if I can't get down to the local game shop tomorrow to measure him against the over-fed husky that is Fangir and see where he really stacks up. Silverwolf- Do you realize how tall 8 feet at the shoulder is when talking about a 4-legged beast? That is huge! Black rhinos stand only 5-6 feet tall at the shoulder! And since when are astartes 10 feet tall? That is primarch height not astartes- the average astartes stands 2.1-2.5 meters tall (7-8 feet). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Yes, they are currently headless as the heads are being trimmed up before basecoating. Poor Skol, everyone thinks you are too small! What happened to 'size doesn't matter' boys? I'm going to see if I can't get down to the local game shop tomorrow to measure him against the over-fed husky that is Fangir and see where he really stacks up. Silverwolf- Do you realize how tall 8 feet at the shoulder is when talking about a 4-legged beast? That is huge! Black rhinos stand only 5-6 feet tall at the shoulder! And since when are astartes 10 feet tall? That is primarch height not astartes- the average astartes stands 2.1-2.5 meters tall (7-8 feet). rhino as in the APC not the animal :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 LOL greenhorn, your so silly :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 haha, not sure where I got the 10' figure from again now, you might be right. Being somewhat long in the tooth these days much of the fluff I've pulled information from has since changed, or has been purged by the Inquisition and no longer available/valid ;). (Such as some of the larger wolves of Fenris reaching the size of a Rhino APC, I know I've read it, but where is a different matter). But yes, I'm talking about our Rhino APCs, not the animal. Also remember that regardless of respective real-world sizes and heights, your trying to create a model that is in proportion to the man riding it. If nothing else there is the Canis Wolfborn model which (while I dislike the cranky-hamster-wolf) I see as being correct in proportions. A Thunderwolf is a huge, ferocious animal, capable of attacks that can potentially tear into/through AV13 vehicles, while still being a wolf, meaning it's capable of loping along for days on end without pause in the pursuit of its prey. The image such a description brings to mind to me is a large, heavy-set beast, still athletic enough, and containing the stamina for an extended hunt, but with a powerful fore-body, neck, and head. Something akin to a cross between the build of Hyena & a Wolf. Which is precisely why the Bloodcrusher models caught my eye as a good base for my own. At the end of the day though, it all comes down to personal opinions. This is a hobby, and we're talking about your army. Your idea of what a Thunderwolf should be may be completely different to my own. But you asked for comments, and so I comment :). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 LOL greenhorn, your so silly :cuss :) what did i do now? ;) Euphrati you could always get a Canis model to use as a reference for height Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2843973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphrati Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 I honestly loathe that model, but in the end that might be what I have to end up doing. Silverwolf- My fault there for thinking you ment the flesh & blood beast vs the plasteel & oil one ;) as TW are compared physically to the 'Terran rhinoceroid' in the codex. The referance you are thinking of is in Index Astartes II, page 8- 'But most dangerous of all, a predator so advanced that it is known throughout the galaxy, is the Fenrisian wolf. These iron-furred monsters range from the mass of a small horse to that of an armoured personnel carrier, and are possessed of a singular cunning.' Either way, the next TW will be bigger. I might just toss a brazen blood claw on Skol and say they are both young- Orcir was on his final trial, dropped leagues from the Fang with the simple instruction of 'return', when he came upon a vast swath of scree that had broken free of the lower flanks of a lesser peak in the claws of a storm. In the midst of the slide, wounded and pinned in place under tones of rubble, was a young Thunderwolf. As Orcir approached, drawing the blade he had fashioned from the same flint that held the Thunderwolf fast, the golden eyes of the great beast snapped open to lock with his gaze. Something within those defiant eyes called to a kinship inside the young son of Russ and, after days of hauling the fallen stones free and nights of weathering the ferocity of mother Fenris, a pair of figures emerged from the shadows of the great peaks of Broddja and Ammagrimgul to stand before Sunrising Gate as dawn broke over Asaheim. Though far younger than the rest of the brotherhood of Thunderwolf Riders- the pair have shown a fearless ferocity in battle, although boarding on audacious near-recklessness in some cases, that has earned them the right to ride at the sides of their older brethren. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2844007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Haha, a short but sweet little bit of background to explain it's size there Euphrati ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2844023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphrati Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 So, I did get down to the shop today and ended up getting Canis & his over-sized squirrel and also grabbed a pack of bikes for a total of $40. Half off sale! I honestly didn't recall him being quite as massive as he is (not to mention front heavy), Skol looks even smaller beside him :rolleyes: Putting a shield maiden on him is looking like a better option than a blood claw, although now I'm going to have to find a good model to mod for the maiden. I think i'm going to shoot for somewhere between the size of the two, though I've decided that the 60mm is too big. Instead I think I might try putting them on the bike bases as they have nearly the same length without the huge footprint of the 60mm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2844920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 So, I did get down to the shop today and ended up getting Canis & his over-sized squirrel and also grabbed a pack of bikes for a total of $40. Half off sale! I honestly didn't recall him being quite as massive as he is (not to mention front heavy), Skol looks even smaller beside him :rolleyes: Putting a shield maiden on him is looking like a better option than a blood claw, although now I'm going to have to find a good model to mod for the maiden. I think i'm going to shoot for somewhere between the size of the two, though I've decided that the 60mm is too big. Instead I think I might try putting them on the bike bases as they have nearly the same length without the huge footprint of the 60mm. Congratz on the deal. Why dont you greenstuff Canis' snout? Could use a Sisters of battle mini or ask Maverik what he used to make shieldmaidens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2844925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Putting a shield maiden on him is looking like a better option than a blood claw, although now I'm going to have to find a good model to mod for the maiden. PP Tharn Wolf Rider http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/product_image/products/circle-orboros/units/tharn-wolf-rider.png http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/c...harn-wolf-rider One of the same models I recommended to MavGirl for converting up for her Vinteran Vakt units ^_^ Otherwise your best bet would probably be the new DE Wychs. Mav uses something else but can't remember what off the top of my head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2844965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 a mythical substance known as a slanesh worshiper without herpes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2845468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphrati Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think I forgot to note that I'm not the fastest painter/worker- but I at least try to force some time into the week for it! I decided to go with using some old dire avenger parts I found in my 'random bits' stash for the base of the shieldmaiden. They are slim enough to give a distinct difference in bodytype, they just need a lot of trimming/moding to ensure no xenos bits remain. I also started painting a bit to get myself back into things. I'm fairly pleased with the outcome- note I'm not a fan of the 'baby blue' sons of Russ so I was aiming for more of a storm-grey. His armour did come out a tad darker than I had envisioned, so I think i might cut back on the second wash for the next a bit. I'd like to hear other thoughts- http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg130/tecfalcon/minis/IMG_0723.jpg http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg130/tecfalcon/minis/IMG_0727.jpg http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg130/tecfalcon/minis/IMG_0725.jpg http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg130/tecfalcon/minis/IMG_0726.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2854306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 very nice, I love the shading done on the bones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2854411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I actually liek the darker shade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2854534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 looks great! I'm loving the colors, liking the red and yellow. Nicely done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2854603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 for a second there, I thought it was a computer-generated picture of a space wolf. then I scrolled, and saw the base. *enter half hour of stunned silence* wow... btw: for TWC, I use dreadnought base sized bases (as those that came with the mythicast wolves) and quite like that size. Canis's pet mutantsquirrel is said to be the biggest, baddest and meanest of all, so it'd be fitting to make them slightly smaller (also believe the reason why they put the warning not to put canis on a bigger base was because GW themselves had already done that) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2854652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Fantastic work, really like the attention to detail (such as the oxidisation on the copper/gold(?) parts). Looking forward to seeing how they look once you've got a squad together :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2854723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Hello guys, I was wondering if the SW are allowed to use flyers? EX. Thunderhawk GS, Stormraven, etc? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2858123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Hello guys, I was wondering if the SW are allowed to use flyers? EX. Thunderhawk GS, Stormraven, etc? :P Thunderhawks in Apoc yes, Stormraven's currently no, but from what I've heard GW seem's to be adding them as a baby brother to the Thunderhawk for most Space Marines, so we might see SW rules for it in IA11, or possibly as a Codex Errata at some point. And next time please create your own thread if you have a question. Hijacking threads is generally frowned upon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/235861-the-howling-of-wolves-a-twc-project-and-army-building-blog/page/3/#findComment-2858130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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