Bran Redmaw - Legal Rules?

[Silverwolf]

Alright, so as part of my GC Project, I want to customise up a Bran Redmaw model, that will be legal to use even in a Tourney.

 

Now, I know IA11 is going to be bringing rules, and a model for Bran (And I'll be getting IA11 & said model), however as far as I'm aware IA rules generally aren't considered legal in tournies?

 

So, that really leaves 3 Options. Canis, Logan, or Ragnar.

 

So which do the brothers and sisters of the Fang comes closest to a good stand-in for Bran Redmaw?

 

Logan's rules give me a model in Terminator armour, which fits with my list of TDA WG attaching to 8-man GH squad (Podding in representing Bran's forces encircling the enemy, then ambushing them - considering we can't give infil/outflank to GHs). His "The High King" rule also could be Bran's forward planning coming to the fore during a battle.

 

Ragnar is savage, and confers this ferocity to the unit he's with, and potentially to the others around him, which moves towards representing the comment made in the codex about Bran's forces often quite literally tearing the enemy apart during an attack.

 

And the last (and cheapest) option, Canis. "Lord of the Wolfkin" is redundant for this purpose really, but considering the old 13th Co. stats of the Wulfen models, and the rumours of Bran succumbing during the heat of battle, it fits quite well with the stats line. Add to that "Wrath of the Savage" adding to the representation of Bran succumbing in the heat of battle as he becomes surrounded with foes. The main issue with Canis is I don't picture Bran riding a Thunderwolf, in fact I'd be tempted to instead model him on an outcropping (to make up for the loss of height) on a 60mm base (So that the base size is correct). I could always keep a proper Canis model handy incase someone at a Tourny objects. The problem then being he still technically is on a TW, and so cannot join Grey Hunters. I'd have to either run him solo, or take TW Cavalry / Fenrisian wolves and attach him to them.

 

I'm partial to Canis, but there is the problems mentioned. And while I like Logan, he's two expensive for the smaller army sizes. Ragnar I think is the least favourite of the options personally.

 

What is the verdict of the Fang?

[maverik_girl]

If I had to choose between Ragnar, Canis or Logan. Then I'd make my own, better to customized equipment and wargear. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=235298

[Silverwolf]

Agreed, the problem being custom rules aren't legal in Tournaments, which is the reason for trying to make this decision in the first place ;)

 

Alright, so as part of my GC Project, I want to customise up a Bran Redmaw model, that will be legal to use even in a Tourney.

 

Now, I know IA11 is going to be bringing rules, and a model for Bran (And I'll be getting IA11 & said model), however as far as I'm aware IA rules generally aren't considered legal in tournies?

 

And I'd prefer not to use a generic Wolf Lord with wargear from the codex as Bran Redmaw, just doesn't seem right :)

[Tsuro]

If you want to model him as a huge werewolf (or use the FW model, if the rumours are true) then I suggest counting as Canis - he'll be visually distinctive enough from your other units that no one will be confused, and the improved stats would better reflect his lupine nature.

 

If you're going to keep him 'human' though, I'd stick with Ragnar's rules. The emphasis on fury seems a far better fit to me than Logan, and you avoid the Canis problem of having a super-marine.

 

Tsuro

[littlbitz]

I don't really think there is any reason to do a "counts as" is there?

 

The Space Wolves Codex gives us a huge amount of options for customizing our own Wolf Lords.

 

Between the Wargear and all the Sagas there has to be something that would fit what your looking for.

 

If I were doing this Great Co. I would probably have two versions for Bran. One with the Mark of the Wulfen the other without, both however, would have the Saga of the Warrior Born.

[Silverwolf]

No reason other then the wish to have him being something a bit more special then a "generic" Wolf Lord :huh:. I just like the idea of having a HQ, with some "individual" special rules, that can be used in both friendly and competition games (The lists I take to competitions tend to be the same ones I run in friendly games. I don't like making lists like the TMW Wolf Lord spam lists for tournaments)

 

But yes, as it stands currently I run him as;

 

++ Smaller Points (750pt-1500pt: Skirmishes, force recon missions etc ++

 

WG Battle Leader (155pt)

Frost Axe, Storm Shield, WTN, WTT, M.Bombs

Saga of the Hunter

 

Attaches to a unit of Wolf Scouts & outflanks

 

 

++ Larger Battles (>=1750pt) ++

 

Wolf Lord (230pt)

TDA, Frost Axe, Storm Shield, WTN, WTT, M.Bombs

Saga of the Warrior Born

 

Pods in with a unit of Grey Hunters or Wolf Guard

 

 

Both versions hold to certain characteristics of the man, but just feel... lack-luster for how I think of him, which is why I was asking the question.

 

I guess I'll just play around with the different options and see what happens.

[Tsavong Lah]

I wouldn't do Canis, for all of the reasons you mentioned, along with the fact that it's hard to make a PA model look good on a 60mm base unless you're going to include an enemy model or two getting murdered. And it wouldn't look quite right running around with a Thunderwolf unit, either, so you'd have to run him solo.

 

Of the other two... it's a toss up. I think I'd go with Ragnar.