Elric the Silvercoat Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Can a Sergeant in a Tactical Terminator take a Chainfist? In the Rules its says "Any Terminator.." does that mean the Terminator Sergeant can take one because he is a Terminator or does that mean he can't because he is a Terminator Sergeant not a Terminator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Tiberus Satio Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I believe that the points refers to chainfist is 2pts per model, I don't recall it denying your sergeant one. The SGT is still a terminator, just the leader of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric the Silvercoat Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 I believe that the points refers to chainfist is 2pts per model, I don't recall it denying your sergeant one. Its 5 pts per model but It just says Any Terminator and I know sometimes that it changes because if one is named different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I believe that the points refers to chainfist is 2pts per model, I don't recall it denying your sergeant one. Its 5 pts per model but It just says Any Terminator and I know sometimes that it changes because if one is named different. if you read the rest of that sentence the terminator has to exchange a power fist for the chainfist no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 If the wording is the same as the Blood Angels codex then the sergeant would not be allowed a chainfist as the option is "Any Terminator" but the Sergeant is a "Terminator Sergeant", not a "Terminator". If it meant to allow the sergeant, it would say "Any model" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Tiberus Satio Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 if you read the rest of that sentence the terminator has to exchange a power fist for the chainfist no? Doesn't he still get the powerfist just the 2d6 for armour pen? So it would just be adding a chainsaw to your powerfist essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 if you read the rest of that sentence the terminator has to exchange a power fist for the chainfist no? Doesn't he still get the powerfist just the 2d6 for armour pen? So it would just be adding a chainsaw to your powerfist essentially. I think the point is that the Sergeant doesn't have a power fist to exchange in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric the Silvercoat Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 Thanks for the clear up I missed that part about replacing the powerfist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 if you read the rest of that sentence the terminator has to exchange a power fist for the chainfist no? Doesn't he still get the powerfist just the 2d6 for armour pen? So it would just be adding a chainsaw to your powerfist essentially. I think the point is that the Sergeant doesn't have a power fist to exchange in the first place. bingo. Just didnt want to look it up. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 You can always look to the Scout squad entry where the sergeant can swap his equipment for a cool sniper rifle. The distinction in words is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytool Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 If the wording is the same as the Blood Angels codex then the sergeant would not be allowed a chainfist as the option is "Any Terminator" but the Sergeant is a "Terminator Sergeant", not a "Terminator". If it meant to allow the sergeant, it would say "Any model" It depends on the codex Black Templar, no it needs a power fist to exchange Blood angels, yes see below Dark angels, yes it is worded "any model may replace PF or Power sword..." Space marine, no it needs a power fist to exchange space wolves, theirs no sergeant so no problems In concern to C:BA, this is from C:DA FAQ but it refers to the exact same wording twice(a upgrade that refers to "any veteran/scout" in a sq of veterans/scouts and a veteran/scout sergeant) Q. In the Codex, any Scout may replace his bolter with a sniper rifle, does this include the Scout Sergeant? (p83) A. Yes. Q. Can the Veteran Sergeant in a Company Veterans Squad take any weapon and wargear upgrades? (p83) A. Yes, he can take any of the weapons or upgrades allowed to a Veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Do bear in mind timmytool that C:BT don't have Terminator Sergeants. Instead, all of their Tactical Terminators come standard with power fists and storm bolters, none of this power sword Sergeant/bullet catcher business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Blood angels, yes see below Dark angels, yes it is worded "any model may replace PF or Power sword..." No. BA do not have anything like that. Their terminators have to replace their power fists just the same thanks. In concern to C:BA, this is from C:DA FAQ but it refers to the exact same wording twice(a upgrade that refers to "any veteran/scout" in a sq of veterans/scouts and a veteran/scout sergeant)Q. In the Codex, any Scout may replace his bolter with a sniper rifle, does this include the Scout Sergeant? (p83) A. Yes. Q. Can the Veteran Sergeant in a Company Veterans Squad take any weapon and wargear upgrades? (p83) A. Yes, he can take any of the weapons or upgrades allowed to a Veteran. The blood angel rules refer to 'any model' not 'any scout' in regards to sniper rifles etc in their scout entry. This FAQ has no bearing on the codex at all sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytool Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Blood angels, yes see below Dark angels, yes it is worded "any model may replace PF or Power sword..." No. BA do not have anything like that. Their terminators have to replace their power fists just the same thanks. In concern to C:BA, this is from C:DA FAQ but it refers to the exact same wording twice(a upgrade that refers to "any veteran/scout" in a sq of veterans/scouts and a veteran/scout sergeant)Q. In the Codex, any Scout may replace his bolter with a sniper rifle, does this include the Scout Sergeant? (p83) A. Yes. Q. Can the Veteran Sergeant in a Company Veterans Squad take any weapon and wargear upgrades? (p83) A. Yes, he can take any of the weapons or upgrades allowed to a Veteran. The blood angel rules refer to 'any model' not 'any scout' in regards to sniper rifles etc in their scout entry. This FAQ has no bearing on the codex at all sir. my bad I did not check that codex personally just went off of what I thought I read in this thread to its wording.... serves me right for not looking at it personally :rolleyes: . the main reason I thought it could have a fist is: If the wording is the same as the Blood Angels codex then the sergeant would not be allowed a chainfist as the option is "Any Terminator" but the Sergeant is a "Terminator Sergeant", not a "Terminator". If it meant to allow the sergeant, it would say "Any model" and I then jumped the gun on that one, as I got interested read the others but not C:BA Do bear in mind timmytool that C:BT don't have Terminator Sergeants. Instead, all of their Tactical Terminators come standard with power fists and storm bolters, none of this power sword Sergeant/bullet catcher business. dame did I fudge up, did not realize they had a command termi sq, which I was looking at which does have a sergeant that cant get a chain fist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 dame did I fudge up, did not realize they had a command termi sq, which I was looking at which does have a sergeant that cant get a chain fist. Don't worry about it mate, we all make mistakes. And bear in mind you've probably got it out of your system for a while now after that one post :lol:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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