Hyaenidae Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Id say add him because i cant quote for the known reasons,but if you read the passage its quite clear that the DA didnt get there to support the kill team...And it was a significant mobilization on their part.. Plus the name suits the DA. I agree, and the implications are pretty heavy handed, but it's just not confirmed. Without a confrimation of who he really is, I just don't feel comfortable adding him in. Each fallen listed so far is either a confirmed kill/capture, or has been named by either a confessing Fallen, or has been specifically named by a Interogator-Chaplain as a target. During Vraks, the DA showed up in force to take down Arkos the Faithless, even though he was most definetley a Alpha Legionaire. They wanted him because they simply suspected he might have info on some fallen. This may have been another case of this, just a suspicion on the DA's part, nothing more. Without solid evidence, I cannot mark Israfil as guilty. Sorry. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Id say add him because i cant quote for the known reasons,but if you read the passage its quite clear that the DA didnt get there to support the kill team...And it was a significant mobilization on their part.. Plus the name suits the DA. I agree, and the implications are pretty heavy handed, but it's just not confirmed. Without a confrimation of who he really is, I just don't feel comfortable adding him in. Each fallen listed so far is either a confirmed kill/capture, or has been named by either a confessing Fallen, or has been specifically named by a Interogator-Chaplain as a target. During Vraks, the DA showed up in force to take down Arkos the Faithless, even though he was most definetley a Alpha Legionaire. They wanted him because they simply suspected he might have info on some fallen. This may have been another case of this, just a suspicion on the DA's part, nothing more. Without solid evidence, I cannot mark Israfil as guilty. Sorry. :tu: I still think Arkos is more that we're allowed to know... Once paranoid, always paranoid! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 New Fallen! Attias the Untamed - from audio drama The Ascension of Balthazar. He's very large - almost the size of a Terminator but in Power Armour. He's wearing black Power Armour with a winged dagger in both shoulder pads and has a mettalic head. He does not carry any weapons as he starts the story already captured (although not by the DAs) :lol: He briefly gains control of a Combi-Plasma Gun. In the end of the story he's captured by the DAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 He has been added to the Book of Salvation, brother, though I have some more questions.... Who caught him, and where? Why in the nine hells is his head metallic, and what do you mean by that? Was he in denial, or a follower of the dark gods, and if so, which one? Good find, Semper! I apprieciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 He has been added to the Book of Salvation, brother, though I have some more questions.... Who caught him, and where? Why in the nine hells is his head metallic, and what do you mean by that? Was he in denial, or a follower of the dark gods, and if so, which one? Good find, Semper! I apprieciate it! He was caught by Balthasar a Deathwing sergeant (yes the guy that graduated to become the Master in the Dark Vengeance box) and Zadakiel that was the 5th Master at the time (he died - hence Balthazar got promoted). By metallic face i mean just that... It's not a metallic mask or a helmet - it's like a sheet of metal that covers his features - oh, and he has augmentic eyes - glowing red in the artwork on the cover of the CD box... Actually the single biggest let down of the whole story was how little we actually learn about him. We don't know his affiliations (although he does not look Chaotic or Warped but this is no evidence as any member of the DW knows :rolleyes: ). Interestingly, although in the story he's unarmed, in the artwork he is shown carrying an elaborate sword and a bolt pistol. But this could be artistic licence given that in the story he is not carrying any weapons. He kills some cultists with bear hands though. Like decapitating then with a punch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 His entry has been edited, thank you again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Another two: -Methalas -Anovel These fallen yet didn't catch. They remained not salvaged. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Don't worry, this is about cataloguing the fallen whenever they are found in fluff - not only the captured ones. I know the title is a tad misleading... Take Cypher for example... <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Both Methalas and Anovel were annotated a long time ago as "Location Unknown", and as Semper said, this list is of every confirmed fallen, wheter they're still at large, captured, or dead. Thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Thanks anyway. Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Don't worry, this is about cataloguing the fallen whenever they are found in fluff - not only the captured ones. I know the title is a tad misleading... Take Cypher for example... :) It's normal tag. I joked about Methelas and Anovel. These guys obviously aren't going to repent. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinen Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 -The Book of Salvation- A Comprehensive List of Every Confirmed Fallen ... It's very useful list. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 I'm glad you like it, man! It's been a labor of love from everyone here, so I thank all of you for your support in tracking the wayward brethren of Caliban. Keep your eyes peeled for any further info, ladies and gents! The Fallen could be anywhere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Yes this is excellent. Great you're keeping it going 1000heathens :yes:. Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerociousBeast Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I agree, and the implications are pretty heavy handed, but it's just not confirmed. Without a confrimation of who he really is, I just don't feel comfortable adding him in. Each fallen listed so far is either a confirmed kill/capture, or has been named by either a confessing Fallen, or has been specifically named by a Interogator-Chaplain as a target. I understand your position, but I think it's obvious enough that Israfil is a Fallen Angel that we would be remiss not to include him in the Book of Salvation. As any good Dark Angel knows, it is better that 1000 innocents suffer unjust persecution than even one who is guilty go free! However, there could be another category called "Suspected Fallen" so that you don't have to sully the list of confirmed Fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I'm glad you like it, man! It's been a labor of love from everyone here, so I thank all of you for your support in tracking the wayward brethren of Caliban. Keep your eyes peeled for any further info, ladies and gents! The Fallen could be anywhere.... It is always nice to know who we still have to capture :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 I agree, and the implications are pretty heavy handed, but it's just not confirmed. Without a confrimation of who he really is, I just don't feel comfortable adding him in. Each fallen listed so far is either a confirmed kill/capture, or has been named by either a confessing Fallen, or has been specifically named by a Interogator-Chaplain as a target. I understand your position, but I think it's obvious enough that Israfil is a Fallen Angel that we would be remiss not to include him in the Book of Salvation. As any good Dark Angel knows, it is better that 1000 innocents suffer unjust persecution than even one who is guilty go free! However, there could be another category called "Suspected Fallen" so that you don't have to sully the list of confirmed Fallen. Though I am NOT a 'good Dark Angel' (I play Marines Malevolent, Astral Claws, Sons of Horus and Night Lords, lol), I am a big fan of the I Legion. Despite this, and the tenative possibility that Israfil was of the Fallen, it cannot be confirmed. He may have just been targeted like Arkos, purely for information. He may have been from a dead loyalist chapter, and his body simply was never found, as the entry states. Without more evidence, I don't feel comfotable adding him in any list. Sorry, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 so does any one know what happens to Zahariel yet and doesnt Israfael die in fallen angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Pardon the threadomancy... The name Zahariel is listed in the names of the Fallen on the special edition DA Codex. 1000heathens, I bet this list could be greatly expanded from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I wrote down the names off the back of the LE Dex dustjacket somewhere, no details of their respective badnesseseses but a list of names is a start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 WOW. Stobz is angry!!! Never thought Id live to see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Nah, he's just writing loudly because its a long way to New Zealand and he wants to make sure we can hear him ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantras Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 They capture one of Fallen Angels from Angels of Darkness in Ravenwing, he is a Nurgle Scorcerer who used to be a Librarian. I think it is Anovel but it could be the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Mantras, you might want to add a spoiler tag to that. The book has only been out for a little over a month now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 He has been added to the Book of Salvation, brother, though I have some more questions.... Who caught him, and where? Why in the nine hells is his head metallic, and what do you mean by that? Was he in denial, or a follower of the dark gods, and if so, which one? Good find, Semper! I apprieciate it! Attias... Isn't he the guy with the metal face in Descent of Angels and Fallen Angels? Zahariels friend? It has been a while since I read them of course, so I may be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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