BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Say a squad is forced to disembark out of a wreck. Often it's not possible to get a good spread, more so for the 40 mm bases... Doesn't really matter how good of a player you are. Also you can use other vehicles to screen the sides of the Vindi(s). G :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236527-blood-angels-vs-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2853046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 The Vindicator has one true shortfall: one gun syndrome. If it could take sponsons we'd likely never have the conversations. While I enjoy the Vindi, the Auto/Las Pred performs better for us in most situations. So do Missile Devs. Vindis really do bring a fear factor tot he table though, even if some folks refuse to admit the reality of it. End of the day, DoA and halberd heavy GK lists are pretty much one sided fights. If you don't want to bring Devs or some other form of Heavy Support, pack in some more melta. Then step back, trim the fat, and pack in more melta. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236527-blood-angels-vs-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2853061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 AbusePuppy - Wait, you just advocated taking Sternguard in a BA list? Lmao I take 2 Vindicators for 2 reasons... First being they fill a gap in the synergy I need in my Mech list. Secondly they are an aggressive threat which draw a huge amount of fire away from my Troops and other units. Target saturation. One gun syndrome? I'd rather pay the 145 for a Fast Vindicator than the 115 for a Baal personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236527-blood-angels-vs-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2853107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 One gun syndrome? I'd rather pay the 145 for a Fast Vindicator than the 115 for a Baal personally. Me too, although ideally I'll take both since they fill different slots (you know this, of course). And one gun syndrome is fixable on the Baal, since it can take sponsons. Sure, the effectiveness of those Heavy Bolters/Heavy Flamers can be debated until the cows come home. But at least you'll have something other than a tank shock missile and a Storm Bolter when those Psyfleman strip the turret armament away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236527-blood-angels-vs-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2853120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Definitely, but I still do not see them taken in tournament lists. Which means they must be useful enough as a one gun platform. And even when a Vindicator has lost it's weapon, it still makes for a great LOS blocker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236527-blood-angels-vs-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2853132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnon Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Don't forget tank shock fast vehicles are very good at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236527-blood-angels-vs-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2853493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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