apostle85 Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Hey, i am planning on stripping all of my minis and starting over with a blood angels army, but i got into the hobby during second edition, and would like to paint my BA's in the old more colourful scheme. trouble is it is almost impossible to find pics of minis from back in the day and the only 2nd ed codex i still have is chaos. So if any one could help point me to some old school pics or how to's i would much appreciate it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I can fire up the scanner today and get some of the old school pics posted. Are there any in particular you'd want? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostle85 Posted August 21, 2011 Author Share Posted August 21, 2011 anything with the old super colourful paint scheme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 So basically 2ed? The 3ed codex is essentially in the same scheme you see now (some of the studio models are even the same) although in the back cover you can glimpse some older models. I'll run through some of my WDs and see what comes up. We are talking yellow weapons and hazard stripes right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/Razzuran/2nd-Ed-Armour-Schemes.jpg  Codex: Angels of Death. Pages 50 and 51. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judaz Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 So, they have a squad leader and a sergeant? Is that for combat squadding? I'm doing a RAS now that's supposed to be the second part of the 7th squad, both sqauds with a Razor of their own. Had some issues with markings on squad leader for the second squad, but here I see that the squad leader also has black shoulderpads, so I'm fine fluffwise there? I'm thinking of painting the yellow flash on black with a yellow ring around the black to show that it's the second part of the 7th squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Yes, Squad Leaders had the same shoulders as a Sergeant. The "Codex" method of further distinguishing which was which was supposedly banner color. Black for Sgt, red for Squad Leader. Since most back banners are terrible, I always singled out the Sgt. by equipment. The classic raised chainsword, to be exact. Â I like your idea for the ring denoting the 2nd squad. You might just leave it to the Squad Leader though, since which Brother is assigned to which squad could change depending on the situation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 While my knowlege of the older codexs get more rusty everyday. I believe that the squad came with a "squadleader" that could be upgraded to a sergeant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Squad Leaders never had a profile, they're all paint. Sergeants didn't have a separate profile either, actually. 3rd Ed. saw the introduction of the Veteran Sergeant (+15 point upgrade), which is the fellow we have in our squads today for free. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp4rky Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I'm not convinced we get him for free though, as we pay 10 points more for the first 5 men in a squad :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 3ed is when I actually started playing so most of what I know about 2ed is second hand Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judaz Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I like your idea for the ring denoting the 2nd squad. You might just leave it to the Squad Leader though, since which Brother is assigned to which squad could change depending on the situation. Â Yeah, fluffwise it's the way to go, but we get some extra points for complete squad markings in some tournaments where I live. So I have to give the yellow ring to all 5 squad members. I'm also planning on starting with back banners on my sargs and officers, but then I won't do it with the squad leader. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostle85 Posted August 21, 2011 Author Share Posted August 21, 2011 @AustonT yep 2nd ed is what im looking for @Volcatus thank you sir exactly the sort of thing i am looking for Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Personally I give the sergeant and squad leader the vanilla rank emblems in addition to the black pads: iron skull for sergeant & iron halo for squad leader, there is some canon precedent for this sort of thing: the RT/early 2nd edition BA Scout sergeant had the BA sergeant markings on one pad with the then codex scout sergeant marking on the other pad. Â Squad Leaders never had a profile, they're all paint. Sergeants didn't have a separate profile either, actually. 3rd Ed. saw the introduction of the Veteran Sergeant (+15 point upgrade), which is the fellow we have in our squads today for free. Â Veteran Sergeants (WS, BS & I5) were in 2nd edition as well but they were in the Character section instead of the squad entry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2853504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Look at all those power weapons on that assault squad. *drooool* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2855143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 ++Deleted for stupid glitchy double-post++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2855148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Fatiswon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 sorry to thread-jack, but does any one have that pic/copy of white dwarf:pre-2001 with the all jump pack flesh tearer army: with it's death company squad painted up like Knights of blood (maroon shoulders, helms, and jump packs, with gray for pretty much the rest) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2855957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Orange Terminators ftw!  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/fatjazzer/Termi.jpg  I've probably got more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2856391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostle85 Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 wow digging through ebay looking for some of these old minis is painful. to think that i used to have most of these things at one point and now seeing the prices kind of hurts my soul. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2858760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 sorry to thread-jack, but does any one have that pic/copy of white dwarf:pre-2001 with the all jump pack flesh tearer army: with it's death company squad painted up like Knights of blood (maroon shoulders, helms, and jump packs, with gray for pretty much the rest) I dont have it available but WD 250 North America is what you are looking for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236714-attention-old-heads/#findComment-2858787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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