Don the Oiler Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'd love to read about the rediscovery of the squat-worlds. Though it would probably end with their extermination at the very end of that book, just to make their end all the more official. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2885707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'd love to read about the rediscovery of the squat-worlds. Though it would probably end with their extermination at the very end of that book, just to make their end all the more official. Chuckle. And then one survives to go on to live to feature in the Inquisitor trilogy ;D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2885830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Taurus Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I am a bit biased of course, in that I love Ferrus Manus and the Iron Hands, but after Ferrus and his legion being depicted as incompetent dotards, who are easy to defeat, I guess they are owed at least one good book showing them pre- and post Heresy fighting like true Astartes. As I said, as a Ferrus Manus and Iron Hands fanboy I am biased, but they have been grossly neglected and have only appeared as the traitors' punching bags, so that is my vote. cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2890350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I agree Ferrus Manus and his legion have to have their own I was disgusted at how easy they were beaten in fulgrim after all even though I like Nurgle Ferrus Manus as well as the Iron Hands are my favourite chapter and Primarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2893506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazguire Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Iron Hands easily defeated? How? They were betrayed by the Emperor's Children on Ferrus' flagship. Ferrus almost defeated Fulgrim. He only lost because the Laeran sword gave him 'diabolical strength' Ferrus hit the ground with only his Veteran Companies. Not the entire Legion, just a few companies at most, and fought to the bitter end. Nothing 'easy' about them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2893672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikt208 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Iron Hands easily defeated? How? They were betrayed by the Emperor's Children on Ferrus' flagship. Ferrus almost defeated Fulgrim. He only lost because the Laeran sword gave him 'diabolical strength' Ferrus hit the ground with only his Veteran Companies. Not the entire Legion, just a few companies at most, and fought to the bitter end. Nothing 'easy' about them. Agreed, Ferrus Manus was known to be incredibly tough and determined, he dropped onto Isstvaan with just his Morlocks (1 crusade era company) with no support and carved a path right to heart of the defence force. Whether they allowed him to get that far to entrap him and ensure his destruction is ultimately debatable, but his martial prowess and that of his men, Gabriel Santar etc. cannot be doubted. On the other hand his tactical acumen is seriously questionable, even for a Primarch reknowned for being headstrong. I find his decision to drop onto a heavily fortified position (held by none other than the Warmaster himself, not forgetting two of the most brutal Primarchs: Angron and Mortarion), completely outnumbered, and initially unsupported to be frankly ridiculous. For an individual who is not only supposed to have a genius level IQ, but also has close to two centuries worth of experience in planetary warfare, he made a completely unjustifiable decision. I understand he was angry at Fulgrim, and that combined with his temperament was always going to result in him being the vanguard, but this begs belief. This is an error a 20yr old unexperienced soldier would make, not the pinnacle of mankind!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2893708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubermensch Commander Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Iron Hands easily defeated? How? They were betrayed by the Emperor's Children on Ferrus' flagship. Ferrus almost defeated Fulgrim. He only lost because the Laeran sword gave him 'diabolical strength' Ferrus hit the ground with only his Veteran Companies. Not the entire Legion, just a few companies at most, and fought to the bitter end. Nothing 'easy' about them. Agreed, Ferrus Manus was known to be incredibly tough and determined, he dropped onto Isstvaan with just his Morlocks (1 crusade era company) with no support and carved a path right to heart of the defence force. Whether they allowed him to get that far to entrap him and ensure his destruction is ultimately debatable, but his martial prowess and that of his men, Gabriel Santar etc. cannot be doubted. On the other hand his tactical acumen is seriously questionable, even for a Primarch reknowned for being headstrong. I find his decision to drop onto a heavily fortified position (held by none other than the Warmaster himself, not forgetting two of the most brutal Primarchs: Angron and Mortarion), completely outnumbered, and initially unsupported to be frankly ridiculous. For an individual who is not only supposed to have a genius level IQ, but also has close to two centuries worth of experience in planetary warfare, he made a completely unjustifiable decision. I understand he was angry at Fulgrim, and that combined with his temperament was always going to result in him being the vanguard, but this begs belief. This is an error a 20yr old unexperienced soldier would make, not the pinnacle of mankind!! Angron holding a meaningless grudge for over a century. Perturabo going traitor simply because he didn't have the chutzpah to ask for R&R Dorn flailing headlong into the Iron Cage etc. There is a surprising amount of infantile behavior for centuries old genetically engineer super-beings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2894082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Taurus Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Iron Hands easily defeated? How? They were betrayed by the Emperor's Children on Ferrus' flagship. Ferrus almost defeated Fulgrim. He only lost because the Laeran sword gave him 'diabolical strength' Ferrus hit the ground with only his Veteran Companies. Not the entire Legion, just a few companies at most, and fought to the bitter end. Nothing 'easy' about them. I am not saying that they are easy to defeat, even the background would agree with that. It's just that they have been portrayed as being easy to defeat, legion and Primarch likewise. Apart from that Ferrus is depicted as an incompetent dolt who needs Fulgrim to understand that to defeat an elusive foe you must seek their supply lines. That is McNeill's writing for you, the one guy with the utmost technological aptitude amongst a brotherhood of demi-gods and he is the one who doesn't get strategic logistics, but the poetic vainglorious prettyboy does, go figure. cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2895243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 So primarch should be lumped in with xeno's for black libary writers in that there thinking is supposed to be alien? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2895313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezzy Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Has there been any word at all on who will write the White Scars novel? Other than that they're all eager to do it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2896273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 A story of a planet the Dark Angels saved from the depredations of the Night Lords, to cut back on the damn Fallen angle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2897113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 A story of a planet the Dark Angels saved from the depredations of the Night Lords, to cut back on the damn Fallen angle. Agreed. There's a reason I only mention the Fallen in passing in my story. It's overdone . <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2898102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Has there been much of anything on Vulkan and the Sallys yet? I wonder though, does anyone think that there is some sort of merit in leaving a chapter or two a little more mysterious, a little less developed, so as to let our imaginations run with it? Or is that just too much against the grain of publishing BL in the first place that it makes no sense whatsoever? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2898177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightCommander_Almaric Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Has there been much of anything on Vulkan and the Sallys yet? I wonder though, does anyone think that there is some sort of merit in leaving a chapter or two a little more mysterious, a little less developed, so as to let our imaginations run with it? Or is that just too much against the grain of publishing BL in the first place that it makes no sense whatsoever? they a get a little bit of love in the limited edition Prometian(sp) sun novella. It does show some of the introductions between the emperor and Vulkan and having a bit of race across Mt Deathfire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2898270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikt208 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Has there been much of anything on Vulkan and the Sallys yet? I wonder though, does anyone think that there is some sort of merit in leaving a chapter or two a little more mysterious, a little less developed, so as to let our imaginations run with it? Or is that just too much against the grain of publishing BL in the first place that it makes no sense whatsoever? Apart from Promethean Sun, and Forgotten Sons (Age of Darkness book) there hasn't been anything. I did speak to Nick Kyme recently about future Salamander releases, and he said there were plans but not any time soon, certainly not in the next year or two, or so I could tell. Got to be honest though, these guys just come across as very boring, even in Promethean Sun (and Forgotten Sons) , they just didn't get my interest. Maybe its Nick Kyme's writing (40k Salamander books are OK), but I dont really care about them, at least not in the way I do about the other legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2898340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'd like to see how the Cog Boys and the Iron Hands got on before/during the Heresy. What with the schism on Mars and then Ferrus losing his head (hur hur), it'd be good to see if they give help to one another. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2900850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJORNin83 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I think something covering the greatest tank battle EVER would be awesome. I reckon Dan Abnett would be ideal for that. :P Dan Abnett's "Titanicus" was flat out amazing with the Titans, it even had some tank vs titan action in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2901090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haniboll Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords Night Lords and maybe some Alpha Legion tomfoolery... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2903342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Sorry, did you say Night Lords? If you wanna say something don't be cryptic about it! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2903516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haniboll Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Sorry, did you say Night Lords? If you wanna say something don't be cryptic about it! :angry: Actually its really a call for Alpha Legion books. While the terrifying Sons of Curze held your attention, Alpharius came in unseen. Classic Alpha Legion! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2904403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Sorry, did you say Night Lords? If you wanna say something don't be cryptic about it! ;) Actually its really a call for Alpha Legion books. While the terrifying Sons of Curze held your attention, Alpharius came in unseen. Classic Alpha Legion! Hahaha! well played! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2904487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Alpha Legion is coming in Deliverance Lost. While unseen Sons of Corax will hold your attention, Alpharius will come even more unseen than unseen Sons of Corax! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2904684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haniboll Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Alpha Legion is coming in Deliverance Lost. While unseen Sons of Corax will hold your attention, Alpharius will come even more unseen than unseen Sons of Corax! I see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2904687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Orlok Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I'm currently re-reading Space Marine and I'd rather like to see GW/BL give Ian Watson another crack. I love his use of language and I think it would be cool to have him write the final book of the Heresy series. Not that it'll happen, but I can dream. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2904737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Alpha Legion is coming in Deliverance Lost. While unseen Sons of Corax will hold your attention, Alpharius will come even more unseen than unseen Sons of Corax! I want a Where's Alpharius puzzle book for Christmas! It'll be a bigger seller than Where's Wally! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236908-further-hh-novels-what-you-want-to-see/page/4/#findComment-2905144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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