KJB Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Morning guys I started a DA force a while back, but as usual, my mind drifted and I ended up starting Iron Hands, then an aborted Raptors attempt, and then most recently, the Crimson Fists. All well and good, great chapters all, however something didn't quite feel right with any of them. I've always loved the Dark Angels, the fluff, the knightly imagery potrayed by ADB in Savage Weapons, the pursuit of the Fallen and of course, they are the first and greatest (Oh, plus Stobz and Bevulfs Dark Angels - just don't tell them...) What did put me off in the past was the limited poses of the robed models - However, what I have decided to do is to keep the use of robes to a minimum i.e. only character and squad leaders etc, my Master for example just has a hood but has some suitably ancient looking armour (see below) my sergeants and combat squad leaders, will either be robed but unhooded or just hooded like the Master. The majority of my tactical marines will be sporting the greatest mark of armour ever, thats right, MK IV. I've ordered another pack of Mk IV armour and the Forge World Dark Angels decals (I am resisting the Contemptor for the moment...) I have a few DA upgrade boxes, the Ravenwing upgrade sprue and an obscene amount of other kits lying around to play with (ask Krakev, he usually ends up with them...) Oh, and Sevrin Loth has just had a Dettol bath to clear the way for his ascension to the first legion... Anyway, enough rambling, here is my new Company Master... (who as of yet has no name or company...) with some ancient looking weapons, clearly treasured chapter relics. Comments and critique welcome as always Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakev Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Oh my, I am loving, LOVING, that chest plate, where is that from? Fantastic model and a realistic and captivating pose as normal Mr K. I'm confident that the paint job that will follow this will do much justice to the model. [subscribe!] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Oh my, I am loving, LOVING, that chest plate, where is that from? Fantastic model and a realistic and captivating pose as normal Mr K. I'm confident that the paint job that will follow this will do much justice to the model. [subscribe!] Haha, cheers matey - the chest is from the Sevrin Loth Honour guard pack - you know the one, I keep trying to give you the big relic axes!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I agree, splendiferous (for some reason that word is in my head). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakev Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I keep trying to give you the big relic axes!! Stick them in your pocket, carry them at all times, and the next time we cross paths I will take them. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I think it looks great, and you should have a very interesting force, but I'm not sure on the just hood idea. Why would they only wear a hood? Shouldn't it be connected to a bit more material? I think it would be cooler for it to be like a hooded cape or cloak, rather than a full robe, so you could maintain posability. I just wonder about the hood only. I really like your figure, you going to paint him in DA green, or an original Legion black? Maybe a halfway black with hint if green... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 I think it looks great, and you should have a very interesting force, but I'm not sure on the just hood idea. Why would they only wear a hood? Shouldn't it be connected to a bit more material? I think it would be cooler for it to be like a hooded cape or cloak, rather than a full robe, so you could maintain posability. I just wonder about the hood only. I really like your figure, you going to paint him in DA green, or an original Legion black? Maybe a halfway black with hint if green... Yeah, I know what you mean - I would have preferred to at least have given him a cloak or something but I'm awful with Green Stuff (I only use it to plug gaps etc) I went for just the hood as the Deathwing models in the codex just have hoods, I look at it like his body suit that he wears before the armour is attached in position has a cowl of some description... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I look at it like his body suit that he wears before the armour is attached in position has a cowl of some description... That's what I was going to say. Though a cloak/cape of some sort would look good, it is totally possible he is wearing a cowl. And to be fair, model-wise, all robed Dark Angels are technically wearing two pieces; a robe and a hooded cowl as the collar of the armor sticks up out of the robe and is technically not connected to the hood. This makes sense because PA has a raised collar in the back anyway and this particular armor has a raised collar all around. Perhaps simply a loin cloth would tie "fabric" parts of the model together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 I look at it like his body suit that he wears before the armour is attached in position has a cowl of some description... That's what I was going to say. Though a cloak/cape of some sort would look good, it is totally possible he is wearing a cowl. And to be fair, model-wise, all robed Dark Angels are technically wearing two pieces; a robe and a hooded cowl as the collar of the armor sticks up out of the robe and is technically not connected to the hood. This makes sense because PA has a raised collar in the back anyway and this particular armor has a raised collar all around. Praise the Lion for EPK, that was what I was trying to say, but failed miserably - it's also stopped me wrecking the model with a hideous green stuff cloak. I've just raised you to hero status alongside Mr T Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I pity the fool who don't wear a cowl. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 This is going to be a fun thread to watch :cuss Nice, Very nice conversion Keith, again welcome back. stobz Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 My only problem with the model is the fist. It's an awesome fist, yes, but why would you want to give a character a power fist? I suppose for the same reasons you'd give a sergeant a fist, but you're kind of wasting the initiative bonus that being Awesome Character status gives you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2857961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 My only problem with the model is the fist. It's an awesome fist, yes, but why would you want to give a character a power fist? I suppose for the same reasons you'd give a sergeant a fist, but you're kind of wasting the initiative bonus that being Awesome Character status gives you. Easy, I haven't played in about 8 years - I'm one of those guys who just builds/paints, so I just put together what I think looks great (whilst sticking with the codex limitations) It will be a rare day when I play again!! B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2858142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakev Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Rare day when I play again!! :lol: I've got the camera on constant charge, ready and waiting. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2858930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ok, change of plan... Taking into account what everyone has said, the fact I've also re-read Savage Weapons, looked through the character development post in the unforgiven rules development forum AND being unable to sleep last night, I had an idea... I've dismantled and dettolled the master and plan to rebuild him in a more knightly guise - the only bits of the original which will remain will be the head and the shoulder pads - watch this space... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2859214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 That's too bad, I really liked that chest piece. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2859575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 Ok, so I wasn't 100% happy with how he turned out, yes he looked good but (and most importantly) he didn't look much like a Dark Angel Company Master. So, I re-read Savage Weapons and the one part that always sticks out is the image of Corswain and his brothers kneeling in reflection, with their heads bowed to the hilts of their swords, crusader style, like the Templars in the movie Arn, Knight Templar - that is what I wanted my master to look like and for that he needed a sword and not a power fist. The swords in the veteran pack aren't the greatest, what with their 90 degree elbows an all, and, I'd already used the sword from the Assault squad frame - and then it hit me, the new Grey Knights plastics had some truely awesome looking swords, so, off I went to buy a box... I went for the greatsword with the beheaded Daemon as that looked the most impressive and heroic. The combi-plasma is from the Terminator Librarian kit (which I had lying around) I added that as I thought it looked nice - I love the way perspective makes it look the size of the actual figure... Oh and he has a pistol holstered on there as well Now the hard part, do I go Pre Heresy? Or 40k? I've been experimenting with basecoats - Dark Angel green looks slightly shiny and metallic to me, so I tried a 50/50 mix of Orkhide Shade and Dark Angel green, looks quite good - Not to bright and not to shiny either, a Badab Black wash looked ok on it also - I'll figure out the highlight stages as I go - maybe a Dark Angel green/Snot green 50/50 mix followed by pure Snot Green? Or what about if I substitute Goblin green for the Snot green? Comments and critique (and painting tips!!) most welcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2861089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakev Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I'd have to say pre-Heresy. Seen far too much DA stuff over the years, they just don't jump out and grab me any more, but the Heresy novel (Descent of Angels perhaps?) about their roots on Caliban, now that was awesome. I'm liking this model, it does look a lot more authoratative (?) than the power fist one, and the sword is very fitting. Was expecting good things from the Crimson Fists, so much so that I was on the verge of donating Pedro to the cause, so you'll have to make these guys even better! ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2862651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Much more DA Masterish, that sword looks better with your guy than on any of the GK models I've seen, keep it up. I also love the shoulder pads, so much so I've stolen your 'idea' and ordered a set of mkIII iron armour. I will use the 5 similar sets to upgrade all my Masters of the Chapter. I never really liked the ones I put on so when I get around to redoing them I'll change their look. I can't wait to see your Master painted up, go pre heresy, black is the new black. And I really dig the red icons too. stobz Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2862712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hmm, if I go pre-heresy I may need to order some if these... http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main...;products_id=60 - 2nd from the right, I've seen a few pre-heresy DA army's done with them... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2862882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 very nice models, I really like that pose, he looks so bad***, cannot wait to see him painted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2862913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hmm, if I go pre-heresy I may need to order some if these... http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main...;products_id=60 - 2nd from the right, I've seen a few pre-heresy DA army's done with them... I'd say everyone of those helmets except the first on the left would work (and has worked on others minis) great. The first one is just too Thousand Sons-like to me. The middle one is very Mk3 in my opinion and the one to it's right reminds me a lot of these great pre-heresy Ultramarine conversions Speaking of pre-heresy, here is a Dark Angels army that I like to recommend for inspiration. I know you aren't technically doing a pre-heresy army, but if anyone is to have any relics, it's the HQs of a Chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2863084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_esquire Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Just wanted to pop in and say loving the originality and gothic feel to this work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/236983-dark-angel-strike-force-take-2/#findComment-2863292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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