No Foes Remain Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 How many people here play (starting or other wise) Battlefleet Gothic? I came about this questing when writing some stuff for my Chaos Marines, and then I got thinking: What are the chances of GW rezing BFG? Because if you think about it, with IA 9/10 (mainly 10) and a number of other books (Night Lords just come to mind) there are a few Space Battles so there must be a number of people (like myself) who are looking to start a fleet or get playing. Really its a mainly untapped resource of GW, since some of their stuff isn't on sale any more or is special order only, and I for one would like to see it updated and 'modenized'. Regards, Ventris. P.S: Be gentle with me, its my first topic. :mellow: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerSmurf Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Well, I have a chaos fleet. Had it quite some years, did exactly 3 battles with it. Around here there's NO-ONE that plays it anymore. The group that did went on to "a call to arms, babylon 5", which is in itsself a fun system, although it nearly died as well now. Shame, I miss space battles. OT: I don't think GW will be doing anything for BFG for a loooong time, if ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2858490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baragash Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I've got two sets of the main game, the Chaos and Imperial non-carrier battleships and tomorrow I'll be ordering 6 escorts for each fleet. I'm trying to build them simultaneously so I can use it as a basis to suck others into the game at my club. I also play at home with one mate and it just gives us a different game to play and to build into campaigns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2858540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 There seems to be a steady stream of interest about BFG, at least online. At my local store, no one plays much but almost everyone owns a fleet. GW gave control of the rules over to a group called the HA a long time ago and they still help. Recently a large update called the 2010 FAQ was released and is with GW for review before posting to the website. BFG 2.0 was under development but was canned quite a while ago so I doubt much beyond rule updates and a few ships here or there will show up unless they do a Space Hulk type box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2858544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I'll play it ever now & then. When news was hitting the fourms about Finecast, I quick got myself a Space Marine fleet base on my Space Wolves force which took two hour paint. Then I have my Chaos fleet base on my Iron Warriors army I got back in 2007. Get a few games that my gaming club now & then. IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2858559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Tiberus Satio Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I would love to play some BFG, but I haven't bought a fleet yet because I suffer like everyone else and have no one to play against. I would love to try some ideas of a space fleet to world campaign setup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2858581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reckoning Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I would love to play some BFG, but I haven't bought a fleet yet because I suffer like everyone else and have no one to play against. I would love to try some ideas of a space fleet to world campaign setup. +1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2859055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possessed Marine Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I could see it as a logical beginning to a campaign of planetary empires Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2859590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxer Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Our local gaming group plays it, as do I. To save money a lot of the guys bought various fleets from Ground Zero Games (GZG). These are easier to build and paint and much cheaper. They can be used as Imperial, Admech, Chaos, Tau, Tyranid, Space Marine and Necron, not sure about Orc, Eldar or Dark Eldar. If building a fleet I would not bother with escorts initially except for Tyranids, Eldar / Dark Eldar, cruisers and battleships should be your starting point. Tyranid cruisers are a bit of a waste, hive ships and escorts are the way. Myself I have mainly GW fleets because I collected them from the outset. The only exception was Tyranids built from GZG ships with tentacles and use of Tyranid bitz for escorts and tarting up the metal ships. I have to build an Admech fleet and finish painting an ORC Hulk, otherwise all my other fleets are completely finished Eldar, Dark Eldar, Chaos, Imperial, Space Marine, Orc and Tyranid plus all the terrain. BFG is a great game of strategy as you have to be thinking 2 or 3 turns ahead. Last game we had was a six player 2000 points a player Chaos v Tau slug match. Well Tau pulled that one off as they can fire an awful lot of torpedoes, missiles and bombers (ordinance). Next game we have on 2/9/11 is a small tyranid v imperial (3000 points each, I think) with simultaneous 40K Imeprial Alamo scenario against Tyranids which is 10k v 15k multi-player battle with the outcome of the BFG affecting the 40k game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2859627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 If building a fleet I would not bother with escorts initially except for Tyranids, Eldar / Dark Eldar, cruisers and battleships should be your starting point. Tyranid cruisers are a bit of a waste, hive ships and escorts are the way. Yeah, at the moment I've got a Mars and Luna for my Imperial Fleet and am planning on getting another Luna and maybe a Gothic, Dominator or Tyrant to start myself of with. Then I'll be getting a Chaos fleet. I found that BFG Tactics PDF on GW's site and thats a great help on deciding what to create from each set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2860105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 BFG is my favourite GW game. Unfortunately the years have Not Been Kind to the moulds, a lot of BFG metals come out covered in fuzz and looking like escapees from a plaguefleet. I'd love to see a relaunch someday, with new minis... after the failure of armada, though, it's extremely unlikely Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2860514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I´m lucky to have more then two dozen of opponents in my area and most of them has more then one fleet. For myself i have three fleets (Chaos, Eldar and SM). I love BFG. It´s one of the best GW games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2860607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Tiberus Satio Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I´m lucky to have more then two dozen of opponents in my area and most of them has more then one fleet. For myself i have three fleets (Chaos, Eldar and SM). And for that we hate you.... -glare- heh, just kidding. At least it is good to know this system won't be dying anytime soon. I keep seeing some custom community upkeep on rules, FAQ's etc, has anyone checked them out? I've seen them spread all around forums, so to have a set type is hard to grasp, but I assume it will be generic house rulings. Or do you players that have/still play frequently just go around with the GW supplement? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2864084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerSmurf Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Argh! All this talk about BFG makes my hobby bone itch... I have allways had a love for space battles on the table top. I think I'll dig up my BFG stuff from beneath the infinite depths of unused models that are lying around in my storage room... Where's my cute little repulsive? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2864825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty1109 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 after the failure of armada, though, it's extremely unlikely Do you mean firestorm armada? I do hope it's not failing, I've just got into it with a few friends and we're loving it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2864855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'd like to see GW resurrect some of the old games- maybe follow the trend in Epic of including ships for minor orbital bombardments. Creating a proper campaign model that allows you to run games at every level, would be nice. I'd also like to see some combination. Like Aeronautica Imperialis rules being usable in an Epic game- so you have the planes launching strikes on the Titans and tanks. Maybe include Aeronautica rules for starfighters. After all, if the BFG Craftworld Eldar get Vampires, Phoenixes, and Nightwings in space, why can't the Aeronautica players get atmosphere-capable Sharks, Starhawks, & Furies? Rogue Trader does allow Furies to be atmosphere-capable, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2864895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papewaio Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Me and my brother picked it up about a year ago, and it's great. The flow of the game is much better than 40k. Since we're in NZ, we scratchbuild our ships (the stuff my brother comes out with is stunning) because GW hates us, and there's nothing on TradeMe. But yeah, great game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2865743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 after the failure of armada, though, it's extremely unlikely Do you mean firestorm armada? I do hope it's not failing, I've just got into it with a few friends and we're loving it! Armada was a short-lived expansion for BFG in the form of a book hardly anyone bought and a set of miniatures which suffered horrendous mould failures and vanished inside a month. BFG was turned into a .pdf specialist game shortly thereafter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2866164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 we scratchbuild our ships (the stuff my brother comes out with is stunning) post pictures. tia Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2866166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Someone did a demo game a few years ago and I loved it, it felt a great deal like a naval game should, and I liked how the various astral bodies affected gameplay. It had a good flow to it, if that makes any sense. Sadly the guy running the demo just couldn't get enough people into it. I'd collect a fleet and start playing immediately if I had active players around me. ...of course my local gaming store closed awhile back so I haven't had a chance to play much of anything. I keep my fingers crossed that a new one will open just down the street filled with Warhammer, Battlefleet Gothic, and nerd-friendly girls. Sadly all I've gotten are tatoo parlors and bakeries in that shopping center. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2869171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Armada was a short-lived expansion for BFG in the form of a book hardly anyone bought and a set of miniatures which suffered horrendous mould failures and vanished inside a month. just a note, this is mostly untrue. Armada is a fairly staple part of BFG and widely played and accepted. The models brought out for the expansion were the entire Tau line, the entire space marine line, the planetkiller, the vengeance grand cruisers, apocalypse BB, endeavour light cruiser models, The entire dark eldar line, the entire necron line, the entire tyranid line, as well as several upgrades for Orks and corsair eldar. Of those models, the endeavour CL did have the mould break and was never put back into production, but outside of that and a few ships here or there like the Nicassar Dhows, all of the remaining models brought out for armada are still available nearly 10 years after being introduced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2869929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher in the Dark Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 It really was a great game. Though the models weren't the best, they didn't have to be, the stuff being played with was on a GIANT scale. Unfortunately I sold off all of my BFG stuff several years ago (My copy of Armada sold for triple what I paid, no wonder) and now with getting back into the hobby I am lamenting it like crazy. Who controls the rules set now though? Vaaish, you said that it was transferred over to a group called HA? Any links you could give? I would love to get back into the game! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2869959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Yeah, same. Although I haven't played a game due to the lack of 40k-ers round where I live let alone BFG-ers, it would be fun to go to my local game club and suggest BFG to some people. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2869968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher in the Dark Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 The other thing about it that I think is great is that it is very proxy friendly. Really, the models only served as a "visual queue" of what the ship was as far as the rules were concerned. Everything was figured with fire arcs. Weapons mounts and LOS played no part in what could fire, like it does in 40k. As all ships were modeled on GW flying bases, you could effectively just use those with pieces of paper taped to the stands to represent a force. Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2869970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 The rules are mostly the same. The main rulebook you buy from GW is version 1.5 which is the same as the PDF's you can get off the GW site. Armada, before it ran out of stock not long ago, was also the same version as the pdf's available on the GW site. That still forms the core rules for BFG. Outside of that the 2010 FAQ and compendium does a lot to refresh some of the fleets and unify the various extra fleet PDFs. As far as changes to the core rules, the FAQ does add in the turret suppression rules and make some changes to ordnance base size. You should be able to get all of those here, at least until they go up on the GW site whenever GW gets around to it: http://tinyurl.com/23nul8q Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237074-bfg/#findComment-2869975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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