CuddlesHeretics Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Which should I choose? The planned army is all jump-pack, heavily assault focussed. Is more than 1 death company squad, or sanguinary guard as troops more useful? Thanks ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Dante Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2859443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I hate to say this, as the #1 Astorath fan on the forum, but Dante is better (yes I admit it). Sang Guard as troops is great, Dante's other bonuses are slightly better than Astorath's bonuses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2859445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 You have 2HQ slots take both. As an aside, we need to know what else is in the army to say which is better. What do you like the most, DC or SG? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2859447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddlesHeretics Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 HQ: Dante/Astorath. Sanguinor Elites: None so far Troops: Death company- 5-10 (or 2 5 man squads if I get Astaroth) Sanguinary Guard - 2-3 units of 5 :P Fast Attack and Heavy Support- none so far This is just a working list :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2859462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shan vener Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2860716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Asking which one you should take is like asking whether you should wear a tux or baggies and a tee to a party without us knowing anything about the party. Is it a beach party? Is it a formal affair? The thing about Astorath and Dante is that to a fairly large degree they require the list to be structured/built around them to maximise their strengths. Dante's greatest boons are tactical precision, Sang Guard as Troops and Hit and Run. As a result, Sang Guard is an obvious choice for inclusion (though not a necessity). But including a unit that would allow him to use his tactical precision is more of a "required" choice. If you are going to be doing that, then you are likely to have a fair amount of points off the board at the start of the game, meaning you will have to theme/ structure your army to be able to deal with that. Then you'll need to have the speed/backup to support that tactical dropping unit. Astorath on the other hand has 2 major boons, DC as Troops and then the 50% chance of FC/Fearless. Oddly enough, people focus too much on the first part (in my humble opinion). And often too much on the FC part of the Thirst. Fearless on certain units is such a great benefit. Attack bikes that are normally Ld8, now fearless are exceptional. Dev squads at the back line that could be combat squaded and would be Ld8 that are fearless- same deal. Vanguard also work really well with FC giving you more punch on the turn you come in and charge. Razorspam lists that rely on "weak" 5man troops to hold objectives also go well in this kind of list. Obviously, based on your list proposed- Dantes the obvious choice, since you dont really have any scoring troops otherwise. Woudlnt even be a question. But, hope that at least gives you something to think about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2860757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddlesHeretics Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 Thanks mate, Astaroth just doesn't appeal to me anyway, I'll stick with Dante :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2860828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Not that this is really a big issue for friendly play, but I would NEVER take Astorath in a tournament list. You could bump into another BA player and give them free Red Thirst on a 4+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2860851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddlesHeretics Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 And more than 1 DC squad isn't that useful, seen as you can get 30 in a single squad :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237150-dante-or-astorath/#findComment-2860906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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