Galorn Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Where do u buy the blue silicon for the molds? I was looking for it with no results... Thx I got mine from reynolds Plastics in Allston MA. link to their website no worries. I'll have pics up of a little progress in a few mins. (last Mruin is assembled) I need to cast up more tiles to make the large ruins tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2862980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Progress to date. Mruin 5 (adding 2nd floor) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090598.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090601.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090603.jpg Lruin 1 In progress (need more floor tiles...) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090605.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2863024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GumbaFish Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Wow these look great, very clever indeed to use the legos while letting things cure. I am surprised that elmers holds those second floors, I was expecting you had to use some sort of wierd dental bonding agent to get the floors to stay. I'm also from Rochester strangely enough so I've heard about this event for years. I do miss having local gaming stores close by, I guess I got spoiled there and didn't know any different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2863614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 Wow these look great, very clever indeed to use the legos while letting things cure. I am surprised that elmers holds those second floors, I was expecting you had to use some sort of wierd dental bonding agent to get the floors to stay. I'm also from Rochester strangely enough so I've heard about this event for years. I do miss having local gaming stores close by, I guess I got spoiled there and didn't know any different. Thanks. Where are you now? (ie. what metropolitan area is closest? ex near Boston.) FLGS are nice to have I have one that is Pretty good apx 30mins away and one that is AWESOME around 1hr away. my club meets at the pretty good one. ON to today's Pics. I've cast enough floor tiles for the ground floor level of the first Large ruin, so I've begun adding the walls on. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090607.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090608.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090612.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2863662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 This mornings Progress. Lruin 1 (adding 2nd and 3rd floors) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090615.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090618.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090621.jpg New Mold in Action http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090623.jpg Aaaaaand What It makes http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090625.jpg Parts from new mold Being added to Lruin 1 http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090628.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2864162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 How did you make the mold/what did you use as the master for the detail? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2864413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 How did you make the mold/what did you use as the master for the detail? Which mold? The building molds were made with masters made from EPS (similar to Sintra) and Plastruct polystyrene. the inserts were made with sculpey, (bricks and door) and plastruct polystyrene. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2864424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Melice Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I love the progress, my only sadness is that I most likely won't be able to go to Rochester and have a game on this soon to be magnificent table. Keep it coming, and don't you loose those molds brother!!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2864713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 I love the progress, my only sadness is that I most likely won't be able to go to Rochester and have a game on this soon to be magnificent table.Keep it coming, and don't you loose those molds brother!!!!!!! Suckage , Da Boyz is a hoot. Well if you make it to PAX east next year It will be there as well. Also if you are ever up in the Metro Boston region I can prob get it to a store near you to use. As for losing the molds... No worries I can just make more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2864726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Pics of Today's progress. Lruin 2 (adding 3rd story) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090634.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090642.jpg Lruin 1 adding backs to the window fill panels http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090639.jpg Closer pics (of Lruin1 window fill panel backings) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090640.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090641.jpg Floor Tiles for Lruin2 (and other stuff) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090645.jpg Mruins in a bin (waiting for next stage... Spackle) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090647.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2865692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Melice Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 can I suggest adding a staircase for the three floor buildings, ar maybe a broken elevator shaft here and there, just to spice things up? loving the steady progress by the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2865701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 can I suggest adding a staircase for the three floor buildings, ar maybe a broken elevator shaft here and there, just to spice things up? loving the steady progress by the way. I intend to add Ladders to all of the ruins. but the elevator would look neat... hmmm time to ponder construction... ans slow but steady wins the race (so to speak.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2865717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 And heeeres the Pics of Lruin 2 with the first floor being added. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090651.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090652.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090654.jpg The molds I made for sandbags, window fill, and a door.. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090656.jpg some leftover dental stone... hmmmm Moar Rubble!!! http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090657.jpg Window fill inserts. (two back to back make one window fill) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090659.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090660.jpg Bases for Barricades.... and a Rubble Pile... http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090662.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2867147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Melice Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 my mind is failing to grasp the whole scale of your madness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2867225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 the Pics from today. Mruin 1 (adding sandbag stuff) Overview http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090666.jpg Closeup on sandbag revetment (back) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090667.jpg Closeup on sandbag revetment (rear of doorway) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090670.jpg Upper windows. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090671.jpg Front overview http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090676.jpg Lruin 1 (Chipped up) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090677.jpg Lruin2 (Chipped Up) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090679.jpg Closeup of Lruin 2 Rubble piles at ends of walls http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090683.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090687.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2868094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teku Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Damn you are going really fast on these things! Hope one day to have the same good looking terrain/Table you got! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2868243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 well I've lost a day to Space Marine... But I'll get cracking on these again tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2869272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 well I've lost a day to Space Marine... But I'll get cracking on these again tomorrow. I think that's gonna be a common excuse on the WIP board for quite a few months now. :( Lookin' cool, man. Keep up the great work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2869275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 well I've lost a day to Space Marine... But I'll get cracking on these again tomorrow. I think that's gonna be a common excuse on the WIP board for quite a few months now. ;) Lookin' cool, man. Keep up the great work! Yeah probably. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2869985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 I've begun spackilng the ruins to blend the tiles into the MDF bases, and help hide some of the join lines for the larger ruins, (at least it will after I sand the excess spackle off...). I apologize for the poor pic quality but I need to get to bed so don't have time to retake em now (I'll do that when I get home from work tomorrow) the three Small ruins (overview) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090689.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090692.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090695.jpg Close up of Sruin 2 spackling (best of the pics I took... I'll edit it out when I have a better pic tomorrow) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090696.jpg Sruin 1 Spackling http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090706.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2870171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 How did you make the mold/what did you use as the master for the detail? Which mold? The building molds were made with masters made from EPS (similar to Sintra) and Plastruct polystyrene. the inserts were made with sculpey, (bricks and door) and plastruct polystyrene. Cheers! That pretty much answers everything. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2870986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 How did you make the mold/what did you use as the master for the detail? Which mold? The building molds were made with masters made from EPS (similar to Sintra) and Plastruct polystyrene. the inserts were made with sculpey, (bricks and door) and plastruct polystyrene. Cheers! That pretty much answers everything. :) Mold walls (to hold the RTV sillicone in) were simply legos hotglued down to either the smooth side of some MDF or Foamcore. RTV sillicone was Moldstar 15 from Smooth-on On to Pics... Pics of spackling of small ruins. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090708.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090711.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090716.jpg http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090719.jpg Mini for Scale pic of LRuin 1 http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090721.jpg Other side of the wall (Valk/SR view) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090723.jpg Street level. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090725.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2871063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 Ive finished sanding down spackle on three of the five Medium ruins. and for a hoot I took some "action" pics using some old IG minis (old as in painted and un-used for some time not old model wise) and my Necromunda gang. On to the Pics. +++Begin Action Photos 1st Prandia (squad A Plt1 1 Legio Prandia rgt) Guardsman, accompanying Inquisitor "BoB" and his retinue of 82nd Necromunda "Absolute Aholes" occupy a pair of fortified ruins as the remnants of the 23rd catachan rgt charge down a street to clear a ruin during the battle for San Lorenzo on Ultima Macharia. South overview (Pic from Surveillance drone +++Classified by Inquisition+++) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090732.jpg Street level view of the charge of the remnants of the Catachan 23rd. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090733.jpg Gun servitor "Brick" of the 82nd Necromunda takes a covering position in the forward of the two fortified ruins. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090738.jpg The 82nd Necromunda takes positions in the second story of the forward ruin, as Inquisitor Bob Directs the placement of the 1st Prandian Legionares. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090739.jpg two legionnaires of the 1st Prandia take position in a sandbag revetment and engage traitor forces. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090742.jpg Meanwhile elelments of the 1st Prandia move to give covering fire to the 23rd Catachan and give support to the 82nd Necromunda troopers. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090745.jpg Western Overview (Pic from Surveillance drone +++Classified by Inquisition+++) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090749.jpg Lt Walter Maxwell Shouts Orders to his Legionaries as the Battle rages. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090751.jpg Legionnaires of the 1st Prandia take covering positions against any Traitor forces trying to outflank the Imperial attack. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090757.jpg Northern Overview (Pic from Surveillance drone +++Classified by Inquisition+++) http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090764.jpg +++End Action Photos "normal" pics Mruin 5 Spackled (adding Sandbags in progress) overview of sandbags http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090769.jpg Close up of lower sandbag revetment http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090771.jpg Closeup of upper sandbag revetment http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090773.jpg Front of Mruin 5 http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090777.jpg Mruin 1 Spackled (adding Sandbags in progress) overview of sandbags http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h295/SamuelButler/Terrain%20projects/Trenchable%20Terrain/Building%20for%20Da%20Boyz%202011/P1090779.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2871624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galorn Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 Finished sanding down the spackle on the last two Medium Ruins. I'll get Pics up tonight after I get home from Work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2872162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 All of it looks great. Really like the action shots, they give a picture of how the actual battles would look on the table. - Nat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237292-terrain-and-a-table-for-da-boyz-gt-2011/page/2/#findComment-2872188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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