The Prophet Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 First - extreme joy of finishing my Dreadnought with a setup of eight different arms and possibility to change between twin-linked bolters and heavy flamer. All options in the codex for full variation. Second - extreme anger and regret after spraying varnish, when five of the eight arms become icy bastards. See below. Twin-linked Heavy Bolter Style DISASTER! Anyone had this problem? I have searched for cures but the only thing people say is to give it more varnish on a dry day. I'm not sure what's the problem. I use Testor's Dull Cote, presumably the best varnish out there, but still I recieve this result. It was a rainy day, though I sprayed inside. You can see below my experiments of cover them in more varnish. It becomes a glossy opposite. Any help is welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffy.Gee Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 This is great work mate and really makes me want to re-continue my WB. Sorry to hear about your varnish fiasco, try searching here... http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showforum=5 JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leahcim Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I have bad experience with that Dull Cote aswell! Won't ever use it again. I tested it, and it seems to melt the paint (primarily purple GW paint) somehow and by that changeing the color radically... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient god Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 OK, here's what you should do: Use brush-on gloss varnish to get rid of the icing, spray or paint on matt varnish after that. You end up with a very well-varnished model but it takes away the milky finish. Has worked for me and friends on several occasions, we've had this problem with other sprays, too. The dread looks very nice anyway, though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasman Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Great paintjob indeed. :) Regarding the vanish mishap, maybe it's a case of "too much vanish for your own good". It already happened to me with GW Matt varnish. The varnish coat must be very thin to avoid some unwelcome glossy effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Yeah, i think it's just too much varnish. Try some brush-on varnish and see how it goes, it usually fixes the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Firstly, that dreadnought is great Secondly, after my "Purity Seal" fiasco (17 Iron Hands...) I just stripped them, repainted them and then swore never to use spray varnish again, horrible stuff - I feel your pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I like it. I guess it stomps around shouting prayers to the gods and occasionally get a bit too worked up. Sorry about your varnish issues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 This happened to a guy over on the Dakka forums. He has shots of the problem and the solution. I'm giving you a link to his topic, you could try to pm him on that forum, he is a really nice and helpful guy. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/284539.page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks for all the response and helpful tricks! Since I have five arms destroyed - and I rather buy new ones than strip the colour - I can try different things out. Lucky me! I believe it will be a slow progress, but I guess I will buy some different gloss varnishes, both spray and brush-on, as well as some new matt ones, just to try out what works best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Very nice, looks extremely crazy. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasman Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I have five arms destroyed I won't say that, they are still awesomely painted. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 see the good parts, all that frost should prevent the plasma cannon of overheating... and you still have an awesom dread (and pictures to prove the arms were to :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 You keep chucking out good pieces Prophet! Keep up the excellent work! :P TDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thanks! Yeah maybe I should leave the plasma cannon frozen until any 1's are rolled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sensei Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Very nice snow effect, thx for the tips 8) Erm sorry ! Use TALENS mats varnish, expensive, smells shoe polish but no shade, and it doesn't flatten colors. And be careful keeping all aerosols at constant temperature as much as possible. Since I suffered the very same depleasant issue, I always give a few try on a non-mini surface (cat goes well) before spraying a beloved mini. Nice dread btw (but rather unconvinced by the H flamer, seems odd)! DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmitt. Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I've had that mottling problem with GW's purity seal. After making the same search for cures you did I just repainted the damn things. I'm not sure what the problem was but may have been my own: after getting into the habit of spraying lightly, at arm's length, after thoroughly shaking the can before each use, the issue has all but disappeared. I echo the advice of testing it on a dark non-mini each time you go to use it too, a bare DVD case for instance will show up the mottling. I quite like the pose you've got the Dread in, and especially like the effect on the lenses. I am a very big fan of the way you've depicted the script work on the book with fine lines, it really helps get the idea of scale on models and looks like it's been pulled off exceptionally well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
araekyus Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The poster from dakkadakka is correct that a coat of future floor polish will fix the frost. A friend of mine just had the frost attack happen with his minis and he resolved it that way. However, if you are in the market for stripping and starting over, I suggest using Dawn Power Dissolver. About 30 minutes to an hour will rip that paint right off the resin with no harm done. Not sure what part of the world you are in, but the Dawn product is available in the states. (Don't let it soak for more than an hour however. If multiple tries are needed, clean off with water, dry over night and re-soak. I've test with spare FW resin bits and found that soaking in the DPD for more than 3 hours will make the resin become rubbery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Anyone had this problem? I have searched for cures but the only thing people say is to give it more varnish on a dry day. I'm not sure what's the problem. I use Testor's Dull Cote, presumably the best varnish out there, but still I recieve this result. It was a rainy day, though I sprayed inside. You can see below my experiments of cover them in more varnish. It becomes a glossy opposite. salvation lies here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I think it's because you're painting heretics and traitors. <_< Anytime you use spray can delivered products, you have to take note of your environmental conditions. Sprays behave rather badly out side of their posted temperature ranges, which most people know. However the other killer is relative humidity. You mentioned that it was raining. Generally, that's not a good day to seal your work as extra moisture is in the air. I don't profess to understand all the mechanics behind the problem, but may have to do with the additional moisture causing more light to refract. As far as recovery goes, sometimes the solutions work, sometimes they don't. If you take the attitude that all is lost and you have to redo those bits, then IF they do recover, it's a bit win. I hope you don't have to redo the extra arms and your dread looks wonderful...even if it's on the wrong side of the fence. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 If it's anything like Purity Seal just be sure to really shake the can. Like REALLY shake the hell out of it. Once you think you've shaken it it enough, shake it some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Whats going on is the varnish/paint is drying in the air before it gets to the pieces. I have this problem all the time here in Florida. A couple of things I do to prevent it; Inside out of direct sunlight Coolest possible time of day Least humidity Hold nozzle closer to the piece I've gone through a gallon of Simple Green in the last year or so in order to re-finish many, many models. Next time I'll try some of the fixes mentioned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 So to sum up, I should: 1) Measure the moisture in the area I work. 2) Spray/paint something glossy (different suggestions, I'll try as many as I can) on top of the frosty arms. 3) Convert to imperial creed. 4) Paint/Spray again with something matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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