Jeffy.Gee Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I've just aquired the BA codex and I'm marvelling at the awesome rules and equipment you guys get. But as the topic states, I'm unsure if Blood Talons count as Dreadnought Close Combat Weapons (that double the strength of the user) or if the models base strength is used. The listing in the codex doesn't explicitly state either way. Your help is appreciated. JG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 General rule of thumb - If it doesn't say it is, it ain't. No, the Blood Talons do not double the units Strength. They have their own special rules which include being power weapons and allowing additional attacks based on the number of unsaved wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/#findComment-2863878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffy.Gee Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 Well that was quick. :D That's what I thought, however they'll still wound T4 on a 2+ with no save and that's essentially what I'll field them for anyway. JG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/#findComment-2863879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarchyman99 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 General rule of thumb - If it doesn't say it is, it ain't.No, the Blood Talons do not double the units Strength. They have their own special rules which include being power weapons Lightning Claws and allowing additional attacks based on the number of unsaved wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/#findComment-2863880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffy.Gee Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 Don't worry Anarch, that line in the codex didn't escape my notice. JG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/#findComment-2863884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 General rule of thumb - If it doesn't say it is, it ain't.No, the Blood Talons do not double the units Strength. They have their own special rules which include being power weapons Lightning Claws and allowing additional attacks based on the number of unsaved wounds. Should I have said "includes, but is not limited to"... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/#findComment-2863887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 General rule of thumb - If it doesn't say it is, it ain't.No, the Blood Talons do not double the units Strength. They have their own special rules which include being power weapons Lightning Claws and allowing additional attacks based on the number of unsaved wounds. Should I have said "includes, but is not limited to"... :D No. You should have said "include, but are not limited to..." ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/#findComment-2863902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Aside from punching vehicles, the lightning claw effect is usually preferable anyway. The results against monstrous creatures and very high-toughness models is pretty comparable, but the re-roll against smaller targets (T4 or less) means that you're inflicting a wound (statistically) 35 out of 36 times. Gotta love that re-roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237478-do-blood-talons-count-as-dccw/#findComment-2864259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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