Nikt208 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Now that we are past Istvaan and firmly in the Age of Darkness (apart from a few trips back: Know No Fear and Fear to Tread) do you think we will get a fully fledged book about the battle beneath the palace in the webway, after Magnus caused total havoc? I think its probably one of the most important parts of the heresy as it pretty muched screwed over the loyalists. With the big E 'exterminating rodents in the basement' he couldn't really concentrate on the wider war. It would also give us a good opportunity to see a bit more about the sisters of battle, custodes and other Terran factions. I for one would hate to see this in the form of a short story. A wider question for discussion would be why the Emperor didn't just collapse the human part of the webway to stem the tide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 A wider question for discussion would be why the Emperor didn't just collapse the human part of the webway to stem the tide. Because he couldn't ? Webway is an alien tech so even Emperor couldn't grasp it properly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2869699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Now that we are past Istvaan and firmly in the Age of Darkness (apart from a few trips back: Know No Fear and Fear to Tread) do you think we will get a fully fledged book about the battle beneath the palace in the webway, after Magnus caused total havoc? I think its probably one of the most important parts of the heresy as it pretty muched screwed over the loyalists. With the big E 'exterminating rodents in the basement' he couldn't really concentrate on the wider war. It would also give us a good opportunity to see a bit more about the sisters of battle, custodes and other Terran factions. I for one would hate to see this in the form of a short story. A wider question for discussion would be why the Emperor didn't just collapse the human part of the webway to stem the tide. The War in the Webway is probably my favourite piece of Horus Heresy canon. If it: 1. ...comes in the form of a short story 2. ...is written by anyone else 3. ...is never written about at all ...then I will kill everyone in the whole world. EDIT: Stupid hyperbole aside, it'll get covered. It's too important to get left out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2869703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonestanding Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Seeing as the Emperor's involvement in the creation of the human attachment to the webway could be seen as one of the prime catalysts for the heresy as a whole (E.g Horus' abandonment issues and the like) I'd be quite disappointed if there isn't anything written to describe the battle surrounding it. It's very important to the whole heresy era, not to mention interesting! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2869783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannick Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 To read how the BL author perceives the Emperor's 'powers' at work in battle could be a rather enjoyable page-turner. *blink* Bloodthirster dead. *blink* Great Unclean One dead. *blink* dinner in the oven waiting post battle - ah, the skills of the Big E. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2869823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clewz Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I think they could chuck in a cheeky mention to the creation of the atlas infernal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2869836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 ...life breathed into my 40k fluff dreams... A D-B: please, please, please write this book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2869842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Angel Scout Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Could this be the real reason behind the heresy, instead of wanting to take over? Had the Emp been successful with the webway portal, no longer need for warp travel, less exposure to Chaos etc Still, have to agree with the previous posters that this is one of the biggest events and therefore can't be ignored. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2870161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Where can I find the current fluff on the Battle in the webway during the heresy. Search lexicanum for it and found nothing more than it was infestet with warp creatures and thats it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2870387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 References & text can be found in the Visions of.. Horus Heresy books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2870390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 How long was the Battle in the Webway? Magnus destroyed/damaged the webway near the start of the Heresy, or possibly around the same time as Istvaan 3, so that would give 7 years between then and the Siege. Would be awesome to have a book about it though, maybe the Custodian from the Blood Games short story will be one of the main characters, Amon or Toros was it? EDIT: Also, just thought, the Emperors forces would be understrength too because of Valor and the other Custodians on their way to Prospero, unless the Dungeon was secured first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2870426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikt208 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 From the look of things the battle did go on in some form or another for the seven year period. When Horus and the traitors arrived at Terra the Emperor was still required to sit on the throne. I think the actual battle didn't last the whole seven year period, the big E and his assorted forces were able to contain the daemons, but he had to sit on the throne permanently to make sure the gate remained shut. As for his forces, it wasn't just Custodes, but Sisters of Battle and elements of the Mechanicum as well. Like I said, this would be an awesome book, which would answer a lot of questions and reveal some juicy secrets, but would have to handled carefully, as there is no escaping the fact that the Emperor would be a main part of the story. Even if we don't see things from his perspective., Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2870507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 As for his forces, it wasn't just Custodes, but Sisters of Silence and elements of the Mechanicum as well. Like I said, this would be an awesome book, which would answer a lot of questions and reveal some juicy secrets, but would have to handled carefully, as there is no escaping the fact that the Emperor would be a main part of the story. Even if we don't see things from his perspective., Fixed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2870574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulkansFury Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 A-D-B has got to be our patron Saint of Bolter and Chainsword Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2871738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I think, if we do see A D-B do this story, I'd like to see flashbacks or at least anecdotes as to how the Emperor gained access to the Webway in the first place. It's always been unclear to me whether the Eldar were supportive of it (a theory I find likely) or if he infiltrated it and meant to sweep them out of it (I can see some chance to this too). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2871755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I had forgot about the webway until I saw this. That and I did read Visions of.... last week and read the part about the Webway but i'd like to read about the POV from one of cog boys working on this or someone that wasn't a Custodian or SOS. Just to get an idea of overawed they'd be seeing something that is as old as the galaxy itself. Obviously with some throwback stuff put in of how the Big E finding out about it etc and a nice cheeky mention or at least, how it came to be made, the Atlas Infernal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2871962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 So, if theres a Webway portal on Terra, does that mean it was originally an Eldar world? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2872105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 No, the Emperor created it during the GG as a means of replacing Warp Travel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2872113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ming Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Could this be the real reason behind the heresy, instead of wanting to take over? Had the Emp been successful with the webway portal, no longer need for warp travel, less exposure to Chaos etc Still, have to agree with the previous posters that this is one of the biggest events and therefore can't be ignored. IMO, you're spot on there.... ... It's always been unclear to me whether the Eldar were supportive of it (a theory I find likely) or if he infiltrated it and meant to sweep them out of it (I can see some chance to this too). I think (my opinion, so it's probably very wrong lol) that if any Eldar helped the Big E then they were radicals (like those =][= that use demon weapons...), because I just can't see Eldar helping us do anything but kill their enemies for them. So, if there's a Webway portal on Terra, does that mean it was originally an Eldar world? As far as I can remember the Eldar didn't create the webway either (been awhile since I had a xenos codex/book, so my memory probably is wrong), but inherited it's use from the Old Ones after the Necrontyr wars (again, old fluff, so I'm not sure how accurate it still is). No, the Emperor created it during the GC as a means of replacing Warp Travel. I think all the Big E did was re-build a tunnel to it...kinda like repairing a freeway on ramp. ...life breathed into my 40k fluff dreams... A D-B: please, please, please write this book. Seconded The War in the Webway is probably my favourite piece of Horus Heresy canon. If it: 1. ...comes in the form of a short story 2. ...is written by anyone else 3. ...is never written about at all ...then I will kill everyone in the whole world. EDIT: Stupid hyperbole aside, it'll get covered. It's too important to get left out. :D Should I start a petition now for Black Library to have you write the story? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237968-battle-in-the-webway/#findComment-2872229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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