arizonajirt Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I have been toying around with Space Wolves a bit and was wondering what is the difference in modeling Blood Claws and Grey Hunters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The Bolter (GH have 'em, BC don't) and the pack shoulder pad (usually red for GHs and yellow for BCs). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Blood claws are also more youthful generaly, as the sign of the grey hunter is their hair beginning to grey. Though up to you how seriously you take that. Generally a lack of bolter, yellow pads and a always angry all the time look will set the Blood Claws aside from the hunters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonajirt Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 So if I'm understanding this correctly, Blood Claws do not have blotters, so they are then armed with bolt pistols, other small arms and such. Grey hunters are armed with bolters and power weapons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Greyhunter have bolters, CCW, AND bolt pistols. Bloodclaws have bolt pistols and CCW only. There is a difference in unit color for the pads, and I try to make sure my Bloodclaws don't have beards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonajirt Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Awesome. thanks everyone. I just got done speaking with a buddy of mine who is a wolfgod and has been playing Space Wolves since they first came out. I know now what to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Awesome. Enjoy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Awesome. thanks everyone. I just got done speaking with a buddy of mine who is a wolfgod and has been playing Space Wolves since they first came out. I know now what to do. I suggest taking a look through the Space Wolves Codex and look at the entry on the BC and GH and look at the weapons they can take Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Indeed, and that while Grey Hunters carry all 3 weapons, they don't have to display them all. As long as it is fairly obivous what they are (e.g. Grey Hunters are likely to be the only unit in the codex willingly weilding bolters.) And as said, read the codex before you come to concusions. Generally Grey Hunters are a better all round unit to mass then their blood claw counterparts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2873555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWolfFenris Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I make sure the Bolter is visible on all my GH's. For BC's I'd use the heads that don't have beard and generally look younger. Also no Bolters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2874015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonajirt Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 So everyone knows, I do own the codex and have read it cover to cover, I just wanted clarification because I didnt understand the difference. So please to not jump to conclusions that I have not read the codex and think I'm wasting everyones time. I would not have asked if I had known the answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2874109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I have been toying around with Space Wolves a bit and was wondering what is the difference in modeling Blood Claws and Grey Hunters. I think running legs, from the Assault Marines and from the Khorne Berzerkers, would be very appropriate on the Blood Claws, reflecting their exuberance for mêlée. RAAAAARGH! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2874226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I used to run mostly bloodclaws in 3rd and 4th, but now I run only greyhunters cuz the cost is the same and you can carry a standard. I still use my BC models but i just call them grey hunters. You really can model them however you like, its you army afterall. I just make a point to say i use only GHs and there isn't any confusion after that. although if you have both in your army it could be confusing to see guys with BP/CCW which are GHs and others who are BCs. Persaonnaly I just like the GHs better and I also like the paint job I've had for years, they're just promoted :) G Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2874582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Blood Claws also tend not to wear Helmets, while Grey Hunters tend to tolerate them more. There's quite a few modelers on here that only use Helms for Blood Claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2874632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Also, if you go for no helmets on both the Grey Hunters and the Blood Claws, try giving the Blood Claws any of the beardless heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2874712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Blood Claws also tend not to wear Helmets, while Grey Hunters tend to tolerate them more. There's quite a few modelers on here that only use Helms for Blood Claws. :) where do you get this idea?previous king-fluff told us all wolves dislike to wear helmets ,no matter what title they own. the currently "new" battle of the fang amazed me in the fact that so many space wolves wore helmets. just because somone models his spacewolves like that (even if he's GW) doesn't mean it's like that. otherwise my space wolves would be midgets compared to the astartes as described in the fluff... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2874749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I used to run mostly bloodclaws in 3rd and 4th, but now I run only greyhunters cuz the cost is the same and you can carry a standard. I still use my BC models but i just call them grey hunters. I did the same thing, basically. My old Blood Claw pack from 3rd Edition became a Grey Hunter pack in 5th. All Hunters have Bolt Pistols and CCWs, so I was good to go with WYSIWYG (after dropping out some of the extra Power Weapons that I used to be able to take). Only change was adding a Wolf Standard, and ensuring I tell opponents they're Hunters, just like the other three packs. They don't have their Bolters out since that's the squad that has been accompanying Ragnar in a Land Raider, so they don't want to shoot any Rapid Fire weapons and prevent themselves from charging. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2875019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Blood Claws also tend not to wear Helmets, while Grey Hunters tend to tolerate them more. There's quite a few modelers on here that only use Helms for Blood Claws. :) where do you get this idea?previous king-fluff told us all wolves dislike to wear helmets ,no matter what title they own. the currently "new" battle of the fang amazed me in the fact that so many space wolves wore helmets. just because somone models his spacewolves like that (even if he's GW) doesn't mean it's like that. Actually, I'm not sure where I got that from now I think about it. Possibly it is just the impression you Wolves give out with your models. It's not hard to imagion if you think about it though, Blood Claws run around killing things like a inexperienced warrior of Khorne, while Grey Hunters probably have the intellect to realize that wearing a helmet reduces your chances of being shot. I'm just a Dark Angel, goin' by what I've seen. *Shrugs* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2875182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 your reasoning makes sense if we would be normal astartes! with us being the wolves however it's as solid as superheated water :) it's clearly stated our superior(even when compared to other astartes) senses get dulled down a lot when wearing a helmet and most wolves dislike it. more info about this is stated in the book wolf's honour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2875247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Azoth Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I chose all the heads without beard, the ones that look younger. For GH I´ll take the bearded ones, that look medium age and for LF and scouts I´ll take the ones taht look older and even some heads from WHFB of barbarians who look old Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2876274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonajirt Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 How many people use Swift claws and sky claws? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2877822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Me and me. I use both in preference to a unit of Blood Claws. I want my "+2A on the charger"s charging, not foot-sloggin around the table or necessitating a 250pt fire-magnet for a ride - and for that they need mobility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2877900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Me and me. I use both in preference to a unit of Blood Claws. I want my "+2A on the charger"s charging, not foot-sloggin around the table or necessitating a 250pt fire-magnet for a ride - and for that they need mobility. I agree. The only way I take foot-slogging BCs is if there's enough spare points to condone a LR Crusader. Lately, I've been trying my hand at Swiftclaw bikers. The tactics required to make them competitive are unorthodox to me, so it hasn't worked to my advantage so far, but I'm not willing to give up on them yet without a little more understanding. No Skyclaws yet, they're still in the modelling stages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2878009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 How many people use Swift claws and sky claws? I use Swiftclaws a lot. They were one of the ost effective units at Ard Boyz yesterday. They took out an Autarch and his Dire Avengers, and then a Daemon Prince which they got charged by. Unfortunately, I didn't have the bikes ready in time before, so I used Skyclaws, who also did quite well by destroying a long line of Guard tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2878731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 C:SW is one of the best alround armies out there. Basically you can call out any of the entries from the codex and somewhere here will be using them with great success. The latest codex managed to rebalance BCs and GHs. Where before GHs were quite a rare sight, they are now one of the best basic troop types in the game. BCs are a bit more specialised as they lack medium range weapons (12-24") and aren't much better on the assault than GHs. I know that many people actually prefer GHs even for assault troops, but BC packs become particularly nasty with a Wolf Priest :D Recently I've noticed less and less foxtrot (footslogging) armies around the forum, but I've run some very successful dismounted lists with full size packs of GHs and BCs. They work just fine and make it much harder for the opponent in KP games as there are no transports to brew up for an easy point. Swift and SkyCs aren't the best option available in my opinion, but as can be seen, some people love them. Wolf Scouts are certainly worth a looksee x 6 with MG, PP and MBs... Regards, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238268-blood-claws-and-grey-hunters/#findComment-2878764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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