Arkangilos Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Ok, so I know quite a bit about BA and Death Company, because they are my patron chapter and Sanguinius is my Patron Primarch ;) However, something I have never seen explain is what Death Company see from their Brothers. I know the one in the Death Company thinks he is Sanguinius, and he thinks that his enemies are Chaos and Horus. However, if he is with other DC, does he think they are their (his, Sanguinius') children? Or Sanguinius' brothers? I ask, because my dad and I were talking and I was making two new Death Company who go back to back to eachother (one has two bolt pistols, and one has two chainswords, and they are both possitioned pretty awesome), and my dad had joked something like this: Death Company one (two chainswords): "Brother Dorn! I have your back! Horus can not defeat us!" Death Company two (two bolt pistols): "Khan! I am Behind you! Together we shall defeat this traitor!" Now I know from various novels that they are into their memories enough to scream, "WHERE ARE YOU HORUS!?" So could their brothers also be part of their memories? (btw, Khan was just an example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 In "At Gaius Point", if I remember correctly, the Black Rage marine thinks some of the people in the area are members of the Sons of Horus, so I'm going to take a chance and assume that they think their fellow Death Company are Custodes or another loyalist group that was on the ship. This is all conjecture, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightguy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I never personally took the visions that literally. In my invisioning, guided by the dexes not the novels, is that the DC are consumed by visions of blood inspired out of that era and others including sometimes visions of Sanguinus and his final battle in some cases, but not necessarily and few would think they were actually fighting Horus. I believe that they realize they're fighting with brother angels, but not really able to deal with higher reason and coordinate planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Legion Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Brightguys got the right idea. The way I always saw it is that like Sanguinius, each DC marine knows that he has Horus cornered, and is tearing through the enemy just to reach him without seeing or hearing anything around (why they cant be controlled). Like Sangunius they know the war ends once Horus falls, so they push through without flinching (thus FNP). But like in a dream, once that deathblow comes, they see themselves being cut down by Horus...and the dream ends with visions of the golden emperortanding above him... Very sad ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Brother Pelinore Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 In Deus Encarmine, the mindset of several brothers fallen to the Black Rage is described. In the mind of James Swallow, they do literally see themselves as Sanguinius, hunting Horus, and the Blood Angels around them as their Brother-Primarchs (In the story, the Death Company Chaplain is addressed as Dorn, and told to summon Guilliman). They will also see the biggest thing on the battlefield to be the Warmaster himself (In this case it was a Chaos Dreadnought). ---- I think it's a personal viewpoint, much like alot of the other 40k lore. I see it to be the above, but I read the Black Library books before I really got into the rest of the Warhammer lore. Perhaps one of our brothers who has been called by the Pure One can tell us more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Nice descriptins by Brightguy & I am Legion as to how I've alawys seen it. I actually find it quite fluffy that the Chaplains/Corbulo can't contol them now. Pain in game I know, but quite fluffy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I don't know what it is about this thread in particular, but I've cleaned out 3 spambots so far today. If you see another one, please click report and Morticon or I will get to it as soon as we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Perhaps there's a key word in here that attracts them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 How do you know if you see them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Gosh I cant remember which codex it's in but Lemartes and Tycho talk to each other in one and Tycho thinks Lemartes is Dorn. So I think the visions paint friendly forces as similar friendly forces in the HH and enemies the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Gosh I cant remember which codex it's in but Lemartes and Tycho talk to each other in one and Tycho thinks Lemartes is Dorn. So I think the visions paint friendly forces as similar friendly forces in the HH and enemies the same. It would probably have to be Angels of Death then, because thats the only one I don't have, and I don't remember it in the ones I do have. That would be an interesting read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Can't be AoD I dont own it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I think it was a White Dwarf featuring the Armageddon III campaign, but check out the story in question post #3 HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Yes! That exactly it was reprinted in the Astronomican II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 I want to cry now... that was tragic :sweat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I think it was a White Dwarf featuring the Armageddon III campaign, but check out the story in question post #3 HERE dang beaten to it :) Somehow this makes me want to use DC marines? But i cant make them work on the tabletop :sweat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Legion Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Wow, that was some hell of a story. Who's the writer? I'll have to look and see if he or she has any other works. I really didn't like Tycho until reading this story. I'm definetly getting his model now. But that is pretty well what it would be like when a Blood Angel goes DC. We need more stories like that....if anyone has any others can we throw them into this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I think it was a White Dwarf featuring the Armageddon III campaign, but check out the story in question post #3 HERE dang beaten to it :D Somehow this makes me want to use DC marines? But i cant make them work on the tabletop :D :yes: ;) That story is THE reason why DC Tycho is so awesome! It's just a pity his rules don't quite match up :D It does a good job on reminding me however why I play BA - the Death Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Wow, that was some hell of a story. Who's the writer? I'll have to look and see if he or she has any other works. I really didn't like Tycho until reading this story. I'm definetly getting his model now. But that is pretty well what it would be like when a Blood Angel goes DC. We need more stories like that....if anyone has any others can we throw them into this thread? I'm pretty sure this is the contribution of Gav Thorpe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Wow, that was some hell of a story. Who's the writer? I'll have to look and see if he or she has any other works. I really didn't like Tycho until reading this story. I'm definetly getting his model now. But that is pretty well what it would be like when a Blood Angel goes DC. We need more stories like that....if anyone has any others can we throw them into this thread? I'm pretty sure this is the contribution of Gav Thorpe. I'll be very disappointed if it is. I can't stand his writing normally but I actually like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Really? I happen to like most if not all of the fluff in the 3e BA codex. What there is of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Really? I happen to like most if not all of the fluff in the 3e BA codex. What there is of it. I was mainly thinking of his novels. Perhaps fluff is more his area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Legion Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 So wait gav thorpe wrote novels? any blood angel ones? sorry Im at work and dont have alot of access to internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 So wait gav thorpe wrote novels? any blood angel ones? sorry Im at work and dont have alot of access to internet. Gav has and is still writing novels for the BL. He moved to full freelancer a few years back. No Blood Angels novels to my knowledge but he has covered the Dark Angels a couple of times (Angels of Darkness and the space marine battles novel Purging of Kadillus.) You're seriously not aware of his writing before? he's been fairly prolific over the years. Do you not read much BL stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Legion Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 You know I really wanted too! And I was uber hyped when the Horus Heresy stuff came out, but I read the first few pages of the first novel and set it down. I don't speak for everybody, but I really thought it was written by a 5 year old. I've only ever read that first space wolf novel, where Ragnar becomes a marine. I will go back and look into the whole thing, I just need to finish Don Quixote first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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