Sigh... It was bound to happen

[Donutzot]

its in in my right to say good luck keeping it small.

 

just start with the battleforce and a razorback or predator make your own choice.

build yourself a solid core to advance from and build up from there.

 

 

 

Oh and ignore forte and greenhorn they just talk big.

[Dewi Sant]

Have you thought about doing a 400 point combat patrol force? I have the rule from the 4th ed rule book if you would like a copy of them.

 

Its not hard or expensive to start off a small 400 point force and have some fun little games as well.

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

Ha ha. Willhem is often here. Rubbing shoulders and trading words with us Wolves.

 

Not too sure how well us and the Templars would work though. By the time you lot have finished with prayers etc. Us wolves would have already torn the throats out if the enemy and be exchanging tales of heroism over a Mjod or three :)

pfff... I'll get you a leash if you want. :( Well, look, I would say one chapter is better than the other. Its just our tradition. Don't confuse prayer with martial prowess. You wolves consider yourselves the best at CC.. and you ARE fantastic... but Black Templars are just as devoted to close combat...

 

kind of Viking vs. Knight. Both are sick.. both are awesome, both are excellent, but both are different... now, this won't stop me form poking some banter at you. ;)

 

We wouldn't be Brother Chapters without said banter, we both manage to do it often enough amongst ourselves in our own sections, why not when talking with other Loyal Chapters?

epic fail.. I meant to," I woulDN'T say one chapter is better than another one.." face palm...

[Skirax]

+1 on the Scouts. I use 5 strong with Meltabombs for static tank hunting. 100 points, nice :(

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

whew.. sorry for not replying sooner...

 

and lay of the dress!! its called a tabard. For you wolf brains its pronounced TA'H BAHRD...... :eek

 

Let me clarify, I'm not short on money, I'm slow on money. SO I can grow a sizable force, but not in 1 purchase. So far I think I am going to get as follows:

 

SW Battle Force

SM Battleforce (thats 10 total scouts btw)

Bikes (including some Kromech Ironshark bikes)

and 1 or 2 landspeeders. (this will probably be my only violation of the 13th company, but oh well, you guys can holler. Specially you forte and Az :jaw:. just playing with you guys, I love the community here. Thanks for all the replies!

 

but remember, my dress wearing Black Templars are my first love. You guys are my second. It happens.... Wife vs a crush status.

 

I found some nice 13th company models online... I like the black on dark blue grey... this will be FUN!

[Forté]

Not man enough to be true dress wearers eh. More of an oversized loin cloth :jaw:

 

And as for banter....why do you think we like coming here so often.

[Arez]

whew.. sorry for not replying sooner...

 

and lay of the dress!! its called a tabard. For you wolf brains its pronounced TA'H BAHRD...... :eek

 

Let me clarify, I'm not short on money, I'm slow on money. SO I can grow a sizable force, but not in 1 purchase. So far I think I am going to get as follows:

 

SW Battle Force

SM Battleforce (thats 10 total scouts btw)

Bikes (including some Kromech Ironshark bikes)

and 1 or 2 landspeeders. (this will probably be my only violation of the 13th company, but oh well, you guys can holler. Specially you forte and Az :jaw:. just playing with you guys, I love the community here. Thanks for all the replies!

 

but remember, my dress wearing Black Templars are my first love. You guys are my second. It happens.... Wife vs a crush status.

 

I found some nice 13th company models online... I like the black on dark blue grey... this will be FUN!

if you like the grimmer 13th wolves just make your own company.thats what most of us here did.

also the Rhino and DP from the BF are violations to

 

 

its a dress.

[Karack Blackstone]

but remember, my dress wearing Black Templars are my first love. You guys are my second. It happens.... Wife vs a crush status.

 

I found some nice 13th company models online... I like the black on dark blue grey... this will be FUN!

 

May we quote you on the dress comment? ;) :D I kid, I kid. Marshal Wilhelm will likely try to knock a few heads around in here for that; oh well, I'm just funnin'.

 

As to the 13th, maybe consider saying, "13th Themed" instead?

- You may take vehicles

- 13th isn't considered a viable force, as they were when the Eye of Terror Codex would allow them.

- There's a rules set above in the same group as the Army List link that has the 13th Co. Codex project in there. May help you.

- If you want to effectively have Grey Slayers, WG with Logan would make sense, however not sure how to do this, unless someone is a Counts-As with captured TDA or maybe an extra bulky set of Runic Armor.

 

Just some thoughts.

[Wulfebane]

whew.. sorry for not replying sooner...

 

and lay of the dress!! its called a tabard. For you wolf brains its pronounced TA'H BAHRD...... :)

 

Let me clarify, I'm not short on money, I'm slow on money. SO I can grow a sizable force, but not in 1 purchase. So far I think I am going to get as follows:

 

SW Battle Force

SM Battleforce (thats 10 total scouts btw)

Bikes (including some Kromech Ironshark bikes)

and 1 or 2 landspeeders. (this will probably be my only violation of the 13th company, but oh well, you guys can holler. Specially you forte and Az :). just playing with you guys, I love the community here. Thanks for all the replies!

 

but remember, my dress wearing Black Templars are my first love. You guys are my second. It happens.... Wife vs a crush status.

 

I found some nice 13th company models online... I like the black on dark blue grey... this will be FUN!

 

Just gotta say that I love our community in the Fang. I ventured over to the Inquisition sub-forum for a couple days and even the most vague of slighted comments gets the poster pounced on and mauled.

 

As to the "SMALL" SW force... doesn't look all that small anymore. Also, and I believe it was said earlier, you definitely wanna get your hands on a bunch of Chaos marine sprues to mix into your forces if you're wanting to go the 13th Co. route.. the extra details on those bits add soooo much flavor to them, not to mention easily separates them from the standard SW look (all color schemes aside).

[saphius]

OP:

Starer comes with: Troops, Scouts, and Drop pod if I remember. You can build a great army around that.

 

With the starter box, the termies, and Long Fangs your on course for a great Logan Wing army.

 

Make Terminators with Cyclone missile Launchers, A few more Long fangs - some with Multi Meltas. Make some lone wolves as well out of those termies. Possibly make an Arjac model. You have scouts for backup.

 

Add Logan - or a Logan conversion to the mix.

 

And there you have a GREAT army for not to expensive.

 

Just put Logan, Arjac, and Multi Melta Long Fangs in a pod. Deploy some fangs in cover, and march some Power Armor Wolf Guard with Cyclone missile pack leaders and a few Lone Wolves and scouts for support.

 

Want to scale it up to as large as you like - just have some fun with thunder wolf conversions.

 

With your planned purchases, this is the cheapest way to build on that and get a kick butt army.

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

hmm... the reason I like the 13th is because its UNIQUE... ALOT more than another "Space wolfy" army... theres alot of those... and to be 100% honest, I paint and convert more than play... that might change soon, but can you believe ive never played a 40k game? Yet I have the rule book, know it mostly inside out and keep up with rules and mathhammer? I'm nuts. and I like tabards/dresses/loin cloths. You haters are just jealous. :D

 

I think I will end up doing the 13th "themed/count as" army. You guys are just saying it ain't worth it, so I'll trust you. Now, I DO want to stay away from named character or named characters count as. yes yes whatever.

 

so, before I crack the wallet open.... (blarg) I am going to purchase the following for now. Tell me to add, or take away.

 

SW Codex

SW Battle Force

SM Battle Force

Chaos Space marines

Iron Warriors upgrade sprue

Bikes (inlcuding kromech ironshark bikes)

landspeeders

 

what else?

[Grimtooth]

Before I brew up a buying recipe for this 13th Co I have a couple of questions:

 

1. Why the Iron Warriors upgrade sprue?

2. What are Kromech Ironshark bikes?

 

Decided to start without the above replies, but do reply to them. My first set of choices is to get your basics down:

 

SW Battleforce

3x Tactical Space Marine Squad

1x SM Scouts

2x Iron Warriors upgrade sprue

2x Chaos Space Marine Attack Squad

 

From this you can build:

 

Grey Hunters x10 dual melta

Grey Hunters x10 dual melta

Grey Hunters x10 dual plasma

Grey Hunters x10 dual flamers

 

Long Fangs x6, 3ML/2LC

 

You will have plenty of Chaos legs, torsos, arms, shoulderpads, heads, and backpacks to spread out among those 40 Grey Hunters to make them easily look 13th Co. You will also have enough bits leftover to create a generic wolf lord/wolf guard battle leader/rune priest/wolf priest for a HQ.

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

Before I brew up a buying recipe for this 13th Co I have a couple of questions:

 

1. Why the Iron Warriors upgrade sprue?

2. What are Kromech Ironshark bikes?

 

typo, Kromlech.

http://kromlech.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/jetbikecombo1.jpg

 

and the iron warriors sprue has a nice lascanon and plasma gun.. plus some sick heads. Just for bits.

 

also, I forgot to mention, I'll also get some long fangs (1 or 2 boxes of devastators) and slip up and get 1 dread.

[Grimtooth]

Before I brew up a buying recipe for this 13th Co I have a couple of questions:

 

1. Why the Iron Warriors upgrade sprue?

2. What are Kromech Ironshark bikes?

 

typo, Kromlech.

http://kromlech.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/jetbikecombo1.jpg

 

and the iron warriors sprue has a nice lascanon and plasma gun.. plus some sick heads. Just for bits.

 

also, I forgot to mention, I'll also get some long fangs (1 or 2 boxes of devastators) and slip up and get 1 dread.

 

Iron Warriors sprue comes with a meltagun and lascannon, but you have no worries with the amount of plasma in the SW pack sprues.

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

well then, there you go, hahahaha.

[Grimtooth]

well then, there you go, hahahaha.

 

I don't know if you were hooked on having some Sky Claws via the assault Marines in the SM box, or the Rhino. The only good thing you seemed to really want out of it were the additional Scouts and the needed tactical squad.

 

As far as transports, if you want them, only buy Razrobacks. The price difference between buying them new or having to go out and buy the Razorback bits is a joke.

 

If you need some Wolf Guard in PA, buy one SW Pack and one Chaos Space Marine attack squad. Plenty of mix and match to make up 10 of them easily.

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

well then, there you go, hahahaha.

 

I don't know if you were hooked on having some Sky Claws via the assault Marines in the SM box, or the Rhino. The only good thing you seemed to really want out of it were the additional Scouts and the needed tactical squad.

 

As far as transports, if you want them, only buy Razrobacks. The price difference between buying them new or having to go out and buy the Razorback bits is a joke.

 

If you need some Wolf Guard in PA, buy one SW Pack and one Chaos Space Marine attack squad. Plenty of mix and match to make up 10 of them easily.

 

 

Hadn't thought of that.. For some reason I'm quite excited about this project! As for the extra stuff I can't use.... I play Black templars... I would always welcome another Rhino or Drop pod. so.. why is it that Space wolves get away with chaos icons so easily?

[Arez]

so.. why is it that Space wolves get away with chaos icons so easily?

because we're so awesome ;)

 

we get away with it easily if someone is doing a lost comapny or a 13th type company.

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

lost companies... enlighten a brother... whats the fluff on those?

[Forté]

There is no specific fluff on the lost companies (or 13th companies as it is in the codex). It's pretty much a free reign for us to create. In the codex the lost are described as being those who were lost on campaign or recounted their oaths of fealty.

 

As for the chaos armour parts. With limited access to forges (ie none), its pretty much the only way the 13th can repair equipment and keep fighting.

[Wulfebane]

Well... most people would feel that (fluff-wise) the 13th would scrape/gouge/carve off any Chaos symbols... the arrows and spikey stuff they'd leave, but not something like the chaos star or eyes, etc.

 

OR you could go with an off-shoot of Skyrar's Dark Wolves, in which the chaos symbology would work better.

 

 

For what it's worth, if you did include Chaos bits (which do add a lot of character), me personally, I would remove any directly chaos symbols and leave just the skulls/horns/spikes, etc.

[BrotherSargeantDaro]

Well... most people would feel that (fluff-wise) the 13th would scrape/gouge/carve off any Chaos symbols... the arrows and spikey stuff they'd leave, but not something like the chaos star or eyes, etc.

 

OR you could go with an off-shoot of Skyrar's Dark Wolves, in which the chaos symbology would work better.

 

 

For what it's worth, if you did include Chaos bits (which do add a lot of character), me personally, I would remove any directly chaos symbols and leave just the skulls/horns/spikes, etc.

thats what i was thinking... im thinking of getting some forgeworld stuff also.. but thats for my templars...

[Forté]

Have a good look at others 13th companies. MavriK springs to mind for starters. Good for some inspiration.

 

And don't forget....Wolves don't wear bibs, dresses, or the like ;)

[Wulfebane]

Have a good look at others 13th companies. MavriK springs to mind for starters. Good for some inspiration.

 

And don't forget....Wolves don't wear bibs, dresses, or the like ;)

 

Yes, MaveriK is an excellent choice to emulate on how to blend wolfy-ness and chaos bits perfectly. He's got a blog around here somewhere..

[Forté]

Some useful bits here

 

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