Swarm Marine Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hey guys, my main army is tyranids, but I have always enjoyed watching my girlfriend play her Black Templars, so I thought of making a Space Marine chapter as well. I wanted make my own chapter, and have been writing some fluff for it. It is based on the Space Wolves codex for game mechanics (not many people play(ed) it in my club, and fluffwise it uses Black Templar geneseed (coz I love their heraldry). In this way I have been creating the White Templar chapter, who in turn, have been taken over by the Tyranids, in a way similar to a genestealer cult (but differs on several points). I renamed almost everything in the SW codex to fit my Marines. I was wondering exactly what the rules were for posting portions of my codex on the forum. Can anyone help me with this? And what about pictures of scratchbuilt vehicles, etc. And is this the correct subforum to post these in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarm Marine Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Example: SW: Mark of the Wulfen Swm: Tainted http://rick.in-de-kijker.be/001.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2876114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 In this way I have been creating the White Templar chapter, who in turn, have been taken over by the Tyranids, in a way similar to a genestealer cult (but differs on several points). White Templars. Just saying. I was wondering exactly what the rules were for posting portions of my codex on the forum. Can anyone help me with this? Here, Homegrown Rules. And what about pictures of scratchbuilt vehicles, etc. And is this the correct subforum to post these in? Technically speaking, the Liber Astartes focus more on the background part of DIY (= Do it Yours). If you want to post "just" the pictures, I think P,C&A section is more suited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2876157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarm Marine Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 They aren't exactly homegrown, only renames of already existing rules.. I would just like some feedback on the names :( White templars: couldn't find any fluff, so took it to piss of all those black templars players ( :P ) And if i put the background together with the pictures? :P ps: "...and did not join...t?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2876197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 How were they able to take over an entire chapter? Genestealer cults take generations to mature and require the victims to sexually reproduce, something marines don't do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2877731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarm Marine Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 It's not really like a genestealer cult (coz I'm using different niddie parts, not just the genestealer ones) so I wrote it more like an infection. They suffer a wound during combat patrols, and it festers inside, slowing altering the brain and waiting for that "impuls".. I'm still writing, but currently i have had some of my peers take a look, and they truly liked it... And they are fluff-fanatics ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2881249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 do they have to be could be fluff out like a chapter "decimated" by the Great devorer. while in fact the Hive mind but a "mind Controling bug" in each of them and use it against the Imperium. having a Xenos Possessed chapter instead of a deamonic possessed. it would be original and plausible (I think) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2881508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaplainMathreyn Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 My first reaction was 'No'... I mean, the Apothecaries are there to weed out the impure genetically... And the Chaplains get to take care of the immediately impure (I'd imagine with a bolter shell cleanly place between the eyes...) BUT... It's... A strange, and cool, idea... I have NO idea though how to make it more plausible though... :P I'd find the most unstable geneseed you can find, firstly though... Space Wolves are right out... The Imperium KNOWS how insanely dangerous it is, so why use it?... And for the most part, Blood Angels are right out, too... Raven Guard seem to have some genetic mutation... Salamanders, too, maybe?... They seem to take on heavy characteristics from Nocturne... I dunno, though... Like the Wulfen, unstable genetics, and the intense affect of the planet they recruit on? A blighted populace that they are forced to use?... But then, how do they get away sending their gene tithes to the Mechanicus?... Or, like the Black Dragons... A visible mutation is known, and fostered, amongst a portion of the brethren (The Dragons' crazy arm-claws things...)... Maybe go with That route...? I am not sure even where to Start, fluff-wise... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2882019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarm Marine Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 First and foremost I need to know if it is okay to put these kinds of fluff/codex onto the forum, without legal issues and such. I'll give you the brief summary, and you can give pointers if you want. ===:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=== Planet X is Prime Planet is System X. Planet X has visit from tendril Hive Fleet whatchamacallit. Planet X survives but leaves some bugs behind. Planet X becomes home planet to new founded chapter, based on Black Templar geneseed. (being stable, and hating psykers is a good start for being on a planet way-out-there). => Enter White Templars /suspicion /patrols /nothing out of the ordinary (but sneaky infected > sleeper agents) Time passes (rinse, lather, repeat) "Brain bug" gives impulse, and mayhem ensues. Astropaths signal is blocked. ... Planet is consumed, fleet is gone, now to be used as strike unit, before the Hive Fleet enters the system. ===:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=== Feedback and ideas are always welcome :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2884071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 - The Tyranids have appeared after the last official founding. So, there goes the plot. - The Templars aren't good gene-seed source. For simplicity, see the thread about freemanson Chapter. - The battle-brothers go through regular/after-mission purification rituals. Not to mention the PA is capable of identification of the hormonal/chemical instability. The infection will be caught before you can say "genestealer-hybrid". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2884200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarm Marine Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 - The Tyranids have appeared after the last official founding. So, there goes the plot. => First official sightings. Also my friend said that new chapters are founded when the need arises? - The Templars aren't good gene-seed source. For simplicity, see the thread about freemanson Chapter. => I'll do it when I find it. => We thought it nice if fluffwise the Ultramarine geneseed was at a low, and they required enough. Hence the most loyal of chapters... - The battle-brothers go through regular/after-mission purification rituals. Not to mention the PA is capable of identification of the hormonal/chemical instability. The infection will be caught before you can say "genestealer-hybrid". =>What is PA? => The bug implanted would obviously be able to mimic itself as a normal organ/part of the space marine, to avoid detection. Parasites are smart, and don't requre much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2884547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Kiwi Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I really like this chapter :( Just make sure the inquistition never come snooping... it could be the end of your chapter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2884588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaren Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 PA refers to Powered Armor, which all Space Marines wear. Adding to the troubles of a Tyranid type infection is the Space Marine itself. Their immune systems are amazingly robust, nearly to the point of invincibility. They never get sick. The few exceptions to this are diseases specifically crafted by Nurgle, and even they aren't 100% effective. Assuming the PA and the stringent screening rituals didn't catch this bug, it is very likely the immune system of the Space Marine would simply crush it before it could activate or whatever it does. In regards to the first "official sighting" of the Tyranids, you are correct. It is possible they were around before this, but you are talking about a tendril of a Hive Fleet casually touching a world and being fought off. Once the Tyranids decide that they want a world, they take it, at which point a HUGE force is required to stop them. Assuming that this all happened before the first Tyranid invasion, there would be a record of it. This is not a small random occurrence that you are describing. This is a massive event in Imperial history. In regards to the foundings, it is true that Space Marine chapters are formed as needed. However, to save time/energy, they generally group these foundings together, into the 26 known Great Foundings, the last of which just recently took place. It is unlikely that your chapter was founded outside of one these foundings, especially if they aren't formed for some great/unique purpose. General need for Space Marines is a constant thing, and the Adeptus Mechanicus and the High Lords of Terra deal with this need by having a Great Founding every couple of centuries/millennia. Just find one close to the beginning of your timeline and go from there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2884591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarm Marine Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Their immune systems are amazingly robust, nearly to the point of invincibility. They never get sick. The few exceptions... => so it is not perfect.. Good enough Power Armor and Screening Rituals know what to look for, and will miss anything which fits the "normale profile". Trojan horse/parasite. In regards to the first "official sighting" of the Tyranids, you are correct. It is possible they were around before this, but you are talking about a tendril of a Hive Fleet casually touching a world and being fought off. =>Maybe not a tyranid fleet, but some seed was hurled into the galaxy (before Tyranids were known), and this is the result. In regards to the foundings, it is true that Space Marine chapters are formed as needed. However, to save time/energy, they generally group these foundings together, into the 26 known Great Foundings, the last of which just recently took place. It is unlikely that your chapter was founded outside of one these foundings, especially if they aren't formed for some great/unique purpose. General need for Space Marines is a constant thing, and the Adeptus Mechanicus and the High Lords of Terra deal with this need by having a Great Founding every couple of centuries/millennia. Just find one close to the beginning of your timeline and go from there. => Are there any I shouldn't take? I was just thinking about using one of the last ones. @Tesla Kiwi: Not really inviting the inquisition in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2885350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I like it =) Dont forget that there is plenty of suggestions that Tyranid lifeforms arrived millennia before the first official sightings. I believe that it is theorised by Imperial Xeno Biologists that the Catachan Devils and the Kraken of Fenris could both be of tyranid origin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2885368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarm Marine Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 I like it =) Dont forget that there is plenty of suggestions that Tyranid lifeforms arrived millennia before the first official sightings. I believe that it is theorised by Imperial Xeno Biologists that the Catachan Devils and the Kraken of Fenris could both be of tyranid origin. Thanks! It will take some taking taking the buggs out of the codex (pun intended) but I'm already playing with them, and getting my ass kicked Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238465-swarm-marine-army/#findComment-2885390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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