Brother-Captain Chaere Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Alright, let me preface this a little bit... For instance, we have BA, who have rules like Red Thirst/Black Rage and have things like the Death Company and jump packs for everything and its mother (as well as Baal Predators, Stormravens, etc). BA also have things like Mephiston and other "gimmicky" things. However, overall, the BA codex is known as a fast, assault based list with lots of FnP and other nice bits. My question is, what will the GK codex be 'known' for? Draigowing? Crowifier? Formosan Warbands? I really don't think it will be any of these. I know that we are known by fluff and by practice as Marines, but better. But what does that mean? EDIT: Spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 GK will be known for annoying everyone with the Fortitude / Psychic Pilot rule. Seriously. That's the what people will take away from games against meched up GK, or even GK with a bunch of Dreadnoughts. GK will also be known for Crazy I Win Grenades. Rad and Psychotroke Grenades are pretty crazy in most situations. Those may both be "gimmicks" but they are damn effective ones. Hmm, what else. I suppose another major thing is the ability to spam a ridiculous amount of firepower, both psycannon and bolter, within 24 inches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Force Weapons, and Psiflemen Dreads. And Pally Deathstars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor =D= Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Force Weapons, and Psiflemen Dreads. And Pally Deathstars. *Seconded* Though personally I'd still like to be known for sheer tenacity but with a new codex the instant "veteran" status I enjoyed before its coming actually has to be maintained.... Oh well. (Now if only work and life would move over and let me play.....) =]D[= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Chaere Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 GK will be known for annoying everyone with the Fortitude / Psychic Pilot rule. Seriously. That's the what people will take away from games against meched up GK, or even GK with a bunch of Dreadnoughts. GK will also be known for Crazy I Win Grenades. Rad and Psychotroke Grenades are pretty crazy in most situations. Those may both be "gimmicks" but they are damn effective ones. Hmm, what else. I suppose another major thing is the ability to spam a ridiculous amount of firepower, both psycannon and bolter, within 24 inches. I think this is the most likely and practical idea. I really think that Pally deathstars are a super gimmicky thing that a lot of new players will latch onto. I know that there are some exceptions to this statement (i.e. nurglez and Blackmoor) and I am not diminishing their skill. Because that's what it takes to be successful with that kind of list; skill. And practice. Lots of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I think it will be known for cheese and the people that cry that will be known for not understanding the game enough to know that it is a well balanced codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Dubbed Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Part of me really thinks one thing that will linger long after other armies get a shinier and killy-er codex is the grenades. Just the sheer lunacy of shattering opposing death-star units and the whole "Did that just happen?!" aspect of the grenades makes them a pretty stand-out feature of the GK 'dex. That... or our good buddy Draigozilla..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Heretic Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 GK are the high elves of 40K, they always strike first :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 For one unit of 10 Grey Knights taking on a whole freaking army and winning. the only codex that lives up to the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Dubbed Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 For one unit of 10 Grey Knights taking on a whole freaking army and winning. the only codex that lives up to the fluff. hahahaha! this wins! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Dreadknights, force weapons and storm bolters on basic troopers, and all kinds of killer wargear and psychic powers. Everything else is just sorta gravy... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Psycannons, Psydreads, Inquistor Henchmen with meltas and great commander abilitys. Scout/Troops makes the army very flexable in what it can bring to the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnosaur93 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 derpnajts, bad designs and imbalace, nuff said Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2881944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Psyguns, Psyarmour, Psytanks, Psypeople, Psybombs, Psyswords, Psyhats. And a monkey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2882233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 derpnajts, bad designs and imbalace, nuff said http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/05/hatereagle.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2882272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 My question is, what will the GK codex be 'known' for? Mostly good rules combined with mostly poor fluff. With all sincerity, I think this will be the legacy of this codex. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2882886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 My question is, what will the GK codex be 'known' for? Mostly good rules combined with mostly poor fluff. With all sincerity, I think this will be the legacy of this codex. V That's the thing about Ward, the guy should be banned from writing fluff but his rules do actualy work well. His Codici tend to be balanced and fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 i think the basic building blocks of this codex are brilliant, strike marines and terminators are just what they should be, i even like the NDKs.. i think its the little things that make this codex overpowered, the rad/psychotrope grenades, sanctuary and shrouding powers, even servo skulls.. stackable strength bonuses are cool, as are I6 halberds, but together they are overpowered IMO. oh and draigo is someones wet dream brought into reality. and this is merely my opinion, before i get all sorts of abuse... again!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Rosette Soulknyt Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Will be known for Matt "look at me" Ward, in making a codex so over the top with ridiculous fluff, making an army so smitten with itself and finally for not realising they are now "The Good Khorne". For having crazy rules, like some dude carrying a daemon weapon that is to unsafe to lock away, so instead risks carrying it....could throw it in the sun, nah stupid idea. For having some dude so awesome he can carve his initials on a fallen Primarch and walk the realms of chaos without corruption. For overpowering an army with power weapons, grenades and unbeatable rules that are making BA rules look good now. Your right, nothing to remember here, move along... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremiel Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Ward's Cheese. Seriously Strong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 A great codex with lots of options like other modern books, but, because few units have access to melta weapons, is not nearly as overpowering as people like to think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I think it will be known for cheese and the people that cry that will be known for not understanding the game enough to know that it is a well balanced codex. well balanced? tell that to our 20 points grey knights who laugh at normal marines. they should be around 23 to 25 points IMO instead of 20. :P. Its crazy to even think that we can now field 60 of them in power armour in a 1750 points list and create an extremely competitive list. thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I think it will be known for cheese and the people that cry that will be known for not understanding the game enough to know that it is a well balanced codex. well balanced? tell that to our 20 points grey knights who laugh at normal marines. they should be around 23 to 25 points IMO instead of 20. :D. Its crazy to even think that we can now field 60 of them in power armour in a 1750 points list and create an extremely competitive list. thanks antique_nova Strikes aren't as good as grey hunters. Great they have power weapons but they have 1 attack 2 on the charge, they also only have a small percentage of Ap2 with their shooting. They are marines that aren't as good in combat. If Strikes were as good as you think why do some many forego them in favour of Paladins or paying the Crowe tax or taking Coteaz? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnon Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Strike are ok, I don't think they're really overpriced or underpriced. They definitely have a lot of extra weaponry for 5 points over a normal marine but don't have access to low AP weaponry (plasma/melta) and don't gain any durability making them 25% less durable. All in all the costs and benefits seem to match pretty well. Anyways I think paladins will be the most memorable part of the codex. Terminators on steroids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Strike are ok, I don't think they're really overpriced or underpriced. They definitely have a lot of extra weaponry for 5 points over a normal marine but don't have access to low AP weaponry (plasma/melta) and don't gain any durability making them 25% less durable. All in all the costs and benefits seem to match pretty well. Anyways I think paladins will be the most memorable part of the codex. Terminators on steroids. I agree, Strikes certainly are the last place I'd look for something that could possibly make the codex OP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/238833-what-will-our-gk-codex-be-known-for/#findComment-2884922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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