appiah4 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Why is this hq so rare? 3+/4++ WS5 W3 I5 A3 T4(5) with great mobility. Is it just me or would he and a couple bikers with assault weapons make a really really great unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Well, part of it is probably that bikes are not often used in our codex (other than Attack bikes). Reclusiarchs and chaplains are nice, but also tend to be taken only with DC who can't have bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 James pretty much nailed it. Reclusiarchs are almost exclusively used for Death Company, and we don't get Command Squads riding bikes like Codex Marines, so we can't get a biker unit with good assault potential. Kind of a shame as I really like bike armies, but bikers are viewed kinda strangely by their fellow blood angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropsik Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Dude! Imagine DC on bikes... pure awesome. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Dude! Imagine DC on bikes... pure awesome. Cheers! That is what I have been waiting for! I painted all of my attack bikers black for when the day comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropsik Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I hope, that in next BA codex, far in future, there will be option to make terminators DC... However. As james and sokhar mentioned, reclusiarch is mostly chosen when you take DC. As such, you either run him on foot - when in vehicle, or with jump pack when with jp DC. It's ok to run second option with biked reclusiarch, your DC won't be using run though. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 This might sound daft but if someone was inclined to, could they not have a Chaplain on a bike leading some Death Company with Jump Packs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropsik Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I've just said it's possible, but DC won't run while having chaplain in unit, and chaplain couldn't turbo boost while in unit. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Dude! Imagine DC on bikes... pure awesome. Cheers! WOW the road rage those fella's would be having! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 True, but the Death Company wont fleet anyway with a Chaplain. (Yes I know it's a moot arguement seeing as if you take jump packs, you also take Lemartes rather than a Chaplain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Thanks for all the replies, I wasn't expecting this many :woot: But before we get derailed on the tangent of Biker DC, I was actually referring to a regular unit of Bikers with a Reclusiarch DC. I think this unit would be quite good with some Flamers or Meltaguns. Why is this unit so overlooked? Why does it pale so much in comparison to, say, DC (who have Rage) or Assault Squads (who are very squishy)? Reclusiarch Bike, Priest Bike, 5 Bikers, 2 Flamers, 1 Power Sword.. Or not? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 You don't see many because we have a lot of FA options, and people who use bikes tend to run codex marines. Seems a pretty good unit to me although I think a fist in there would be required. Would look great on the table with the Chappy & Priest. What about a libby? Can they get them in our codex as I haven't got it infont of me? Unleash Rage + Sanguine Sword or Fear of the Darkness could work well if they can have a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 But before we get derailed on the tangent of Biker DC, I was actually referring to a regular unit of Bikers with a Reclusiarch DC. I think this unit would be quite good with some Flamers or Meltaguns. Why is this unit so overlooked? Why does it pale so much in comparison to, say, DC (who have Rage) or Assault Squads (who are very squishy)? You don't see it because besides T 4(5), the unit has no advantage over a simple jump pack Assault Squad with Reclusiarch plus Priest, while being significantly more expensive in points and less effective in Assault. Its like trying to run a Razorspam list with Tactical Marines instead of Assault Marines. The results aren't as good, you pay a premium on points for the lack of efficiency, and there's just really no practical reason to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Blood Rodeo works on the principle of ASM being screened by Bike squads and works quite well. For pure efficiency, I think I'd go with a bike Libby rather than a bike Reclu, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I actually have a Chappy/Reclusiarch on a bike (got it on a trade) Mostly I run him in my "Speed Kills" list (fast vehicles, bikes and Jump Packs...also jokingly called 'Blood Wing'). He goes with a Bike Squad with a Attack Bike and a biker Sang Priest. Bike Squad has 2 meltas and the A. Bike has a multi-melta. The unit can pop tanks well and the Chappy adds some anti-infantry while you charge. The rest of my list runs Assault squads to take objectives, a Libby with a JP (typically with Sword and Shield powers), Libby Furioso with Wings and Unleash, and very few Heavy choices (I find that all the melta I spread around does the trick) It works well enough, but I like crazy lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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