Ancients Assault

[LPetersson]

While I was dreaming up the Fast Attach WG Biker list I came to think of an alternative to the more usual mech lists.

Has anyone tried to make an all vehicle army with 4 dreadnoughts?

I was thinking, Bjorn, 3xDreadnoughts, 5x5GH in Razorbacks, 10GH in Land Raider & 2xPredators.

That's 2000 points right there.

4 Dreads and 8 tanks. I can set that up quickly ;-)

 

Shift some points around, and you can have some drop pods.

Or just storm across the field, there are so many targets your foe can't kill it all...

 

Thoughts, comments?

[MeatGrinder]

Seems like more of a fire support kinda list, lot of long range fire there. Sit back and shoot to bits then rush in and claim objectives?

[Karack Blackstone]

I think my finalized SW Army list is as follows:

 

HQ:

- Bjorn - PC

- Logan

- WP - RA, WTN, MB

 

Elite:

- Dread - PC, EA, WTN

- Dread - TLLC, ML, EA

- Dread - TLLC, ML, EA

 

Troops:

- WG x 4 - 4 x PF

- BC x 12 - PW

- GH x 9 - PW, MG, Rhino, EA

- GH x 9 - PW, MG, Rhino, EA

- GH x 9 - PW, MG, Rhino, EA

 

Fast Attack:

- (None)

 

Heavy Support:

- Long Fangs x 6 - 5 ML, Razorback, Las/Plas

- Long Fangs x 6 - 5 ML, Razorback, Las/Plas

- LRC, EA

 

Not as many tanks, and likely could use some tweaking, however the idea of four dreads is sound. They are however, really big targets, considering everything.

 

Edit: had my BC's wrong, I think it's 12 to capacity for the WP, Logan, and a WGPL w/ Fist.

Also, I take EA on my vehicles so they can still move around even if they are shaken/stunned. It's actually helped me a great deal before, plus I have some points left over.

 

This is building towards a 3,000 point list overall, and with the upgrades (not all are listed) it's around 2882.

[Freman Bloodglaive]

As it stands Logan has nowhere to go. The Crusader only has 16 slots, and that's filled with 14 Blood Claws, 1 Wolf Guard, and the Wolf Priest. He's also not adding anything to this list as you're not capitalizing on his ability to take Wolf Guard troops (here you're only using him to get some sergeants on the squads) and he's too expensive to leave sitting at the back manning the guns.

 

Drop him, take 275 points of something else. Another Grey Hunter unit perhaps.

 

Twin lascannon/missile launcher on a dread is horribly overpriced. The dual autocannon combination plinks light armour well enough, and also deals with infantry, and all that for 125 points. Extra armour is almost never worth 15 points. It's half the cost of another Rhino, and even on a dreadnought, still not worth it. You have a lot of armour plinking already in the Long Fangs, so I'd suggest multi-meltas on the dreads. Keep the storm bolter. Although I take them, heavy flamers are overpriced on dreads too.

 

For my points.

 

Bjorn, plasma cannon 270

Wolf Priest, meltabombs 105 (in a big mob of Blood Claws you won't be taking hits on him, so runic armour is unnecessary, and his oath of war means that the wolf tooth necklace (particularly since you are WS5 anyway) is redundant)

 

Dreadnought, multi-melta, wolf tooth necklace 115

Dreadnought, multi-melta, wolf tooth necklace 115

Dreadnought, multi-melta, wolf tooth necklace 115

 

10 Grey Hunters, 2 meltaguns, mark of the wulfen (potentially better than a power weapon), wolf standard, Rhino 215

10 Grey Hunters, 2 meltaguns, mark of the wulfen, wolf standard, Rhino 215

10 Grey Hunters, 2 meltaguns, mark of the wulfen, wolf standard, Rhino 215

15 Blood Claws, 2 flamers (free and don't have to roll to hit), power fist (with three attacks on the charge and Oath of War this is useful here) 250

 

6 Long Fangs, 5 rocket launchers, Razorback, las/plas 215

6 Long Fangs, 5 rocket launchers, Razorback, las/plas 215

 

Land Raider Crusader, multi-melta, extra armour (keeping this moving is important and relative to the cost of the vehicle EA isn't too expensive) 275

 

Total 2320

 

How many points was the list you started with?

[Karack Blackstone]

Edited my post, so used to 14 BC's I forgot it was 12 in this case.