mcsneed17 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Normally about how pieces of space marine kits or bitz should it take for a major conversions ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen_2 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Depends on what you want to do. Most people just have huge collection of leftovers that they keep and use on other models. But if you have none in the start, then maybe a couple of kits and like I said depending on what you want chapter conversion kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2887900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Is your goal - complexity lvl of your conversion? Or is it final form of your miniature? I mean, no matter how complex conversion can be, you must keep in mind image of the final result. Even good kit-bash can surpass any of complex sculpt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2887912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Silvernale Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 You can do a "major" conversion with a single-piece model.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2888046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsneed17 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 you must be new to the hobby becuse if you read the interview and dicusion with Bobby Wong on slayer sword diorama he said it took about 60 kits ot make one and my figures is from a competely new chapter at is all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2888756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 There's no defined number of pieces needed to qualify a "major" conversion (or even a conversion - reposing/sculpting is a very important part of converting.) Some painters/modelers might talk of the number of pieces they use in some conversions, but that's only their own personal experience - they're not quoting some golden rule of the hobby. Just add the pieces you think look good, and sculpt stuff you think looks good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2888765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 You will not win the Slayer Sword by using the same amount of kits as a previous winner. You will not paint at the same level as professional painters by finding out what they do "different" (as asked in a previous thread of yours). So instead of being rude to people who are trying to help you even though you are unable to phrase your questions in an understandable way, check this forum and the interwebz for Tutorials on Painting and Modeling, look at what other people do by checking out all the awesome project logs and blogs here, then buy as many boxes of Space Marines and other models as you want and practice, practice, practice and practice building and painting miniatures. It's good to aim high and to want to produce great miniatures from the start, but be prepared to spend a huge amount of time, money and effort before you accomplish your goals. It's what all those Slayer Sword winners did, and it's what you will have to do. Cheers, Peter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2888767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 the answer is simple. it takes as few pieces as needed to make your model look how it is meant to look. heres an example of a slayer sword winning mini that is a stock model with a fancy base. http://demonwinner.free.fr/uk/2011/slayer_sword.php?p=317 0 converting on the mini itself.. or maybe that guy is new to the hobby aswell.. also theres nothing work in progress here this is a question.. so is in the wrong place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2888801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsneed17 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 why should not win the slayer sword if i want to tell me why? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2892434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 why should not win the slayer sword if i want to tell me why? Err? Because of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2892473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwulf Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 why should not win the slayer sword if i want to tell me why? I'll tell you why: The Golden Demons, at the heart of it, are a PAINTING competition, not a converting competition. You may have the most brilliant and astounding conversion in the creation of modeling, but if you paint it like crap, you will NOT win a Demon. It is entirely possible to win a Golden Demon with a completely stock, unconverted mini too. (I've done it.) If you are just converting to get the "magic number of bits" on a mini that will win a Demon, forget it. To win a Demon, your conversion work has to be complimentary to the paintjob that is on the model, and the paint has to be complimentary to the modeling. In an ideal situation, you don't want it to look like a conversion!! You just want it to look like a cool model, painted to the highest level that it can be painted. If you think they just hand out Slayer Swords to the people that do the most conversion work on their entry, you are going to be disappointed. The Slayer Sword is the "Best of the Best" entries that are presented at Games Day. That's no small feat to win a Demon, let alone a Slayer Sword. That's just my 2 creds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2892633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megapope Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 why should not win the slayer sword if i want to tell me why? Err? Because of. :lol: Edit to add something of substance: I'll echo what everyone else is trying to tell you, there's no set number of pieces for a good conversion. Some take dozens, some take one or two. Quantity shouldn't be confused with quality. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2892867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebG Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 To reiterate what's already been said: there's no 'magic number'. Two of my favourite conversions: one uses 4 parts and one used almost 70 parts from I don't know how many kits. Both are good conversions, neither will win me a Slayer Sword. As has also been previously mentioned Golden Demon is, first and foremost, a painting competition. You get good at painting, then get better at painting, then start entering competitions. Simple. There's also no set time you need to practice painting - some people pick it up very quickly and master blending on their second mini, some don't. Also, on a final note, word on some sites after the UK Games Day was that the judges were mainly focused on less converted models this year - it's a Games Workshop competition so they want winners that look like Games Workshop models, not custom sculpts. I wasn't there so can't guarantee that's true but, as shown in the link above, this years Slayer Sword was won by a bog standard plastic model with a nice base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2893186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I have a feeling that the OP is not really getting anything from what we are saying but "We don't think you can do this" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2893657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I've got a funny story to share that is vaguely related to this topic; I hope y'all don't mind. So, this year was the 20th Year High School Reunion for my wife and I (yes, we went to school together, many years ago). Just for kicks, my wife rummaged through the closet to pull out the the two-decades-old WHS Class of '91 t-shirts to wear to one of the less formal events. I took the following picture of the t-shirt with my phone: Now, if you look very closely in the lower right hand corner of the picture, you'll see the artists name, "J. Wilson." My high school classmate, Jeff Wilson, has gone on to win 27 Golden Daemons, and 3 Slayer Swords; not too shabby, eh? Oh, and Greg Smalling, WHS Class of '92, just one year after us, has won 18 Golden Daemons, too. Pretty cool, huh? Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2926342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsneed17 Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 The reason why first is because when i was born the doctors told my could not do anything i have proved them wrong almost on everything except one to win an award and not just any either gold or demon slayer that is why to prove to myself and others i can do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2936921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Well go for it man! :) Screw dem douchebag doctors! Practice makes perfect :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2936929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamafore Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 The reason why first is because when i was born the doctors told my could not do anything i have proved them wrong almost on everything except one to win an award and not just any either gold or demon slayer that is why to prove to myself and others i can do it. While I can sympathize, having something similer said about me, if you measure your self-worth through the getting of shiny whatsajiggers, seek help. Remember 1 thing about this hobby if nothing else. Do it because you enjoy it. The moment you do this and don't enjoy it, your wasting time better spent on something you DO enjoy. Damn, this sounds condescending. That is not my intent. This is just how I feel and how I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2937238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Winning a Golden Demon requires: 1) TONNES of practice in painting 2) a Really good composition of the model - you can have a really complex conversion painted excpetionally well technically but doesn't work colour wise or a great composition ruined by poor choice of base. 3) A bit of luck (or ratehr a lot of luck) - this year was aweful for UK gamers as someone from Italy wiped the floor with the demons... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239372-conversions-space-marines/#findComment-2937376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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