Khavos Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 He manifests no other psyker abilities that I can recall off the top of my head - been a while since I've read the books - but his foreknowledge would be indicative, to me, of psyker talent; what else could it be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 He manifests no other psyker abilities that I can recall off the top of my head - been a while since I've read the books - but his foreknowledge would be indicative, to me, of psyker talent; what else could it be? In game terms, no. In fluff terms, yes. He has the gift of foresight, in much the same way as Sanguinius did or the Prognosticators of the Grey Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2888632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Pretty much as Morollan said. Really only the most powerful psykers are able to manifest their abilities in ways as to use them offensively in combat. I think the most common form would be a seer-like psyker (Talos/The Night Haunter). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2888646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuclear Fridge Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Pretty much as Morollan said. Really only the most powerful psykers are able to manifest their abilities in ways as to use them offensively in combat. I think the most common form would be a seer-like psyker (Talos/The Night Haunter). And look just how much good it did Night Haunter! He incinerated his own homeworld in a spasm of insanity -- the very same act he foresaw and wanted to prevent. He was (perhaps) the most massively damaged of the Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2889221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I think it was because of what it had become that Curze did that to Nostramo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2889252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightlordsrock3564 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 not in the whole i can shoot fire and lightning, but he has a spark i think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2889290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 And look just how much good it did Night Haunter! He incinerated his own homeworld in a spasm of insanity -- the very same act he foresaw and wanted to prevent. He was (perhaps) the most massively damaged of the Primarchs. I don't think he ever really tried to prevent it. Remember, he knew from his earliest days that what he foresaw would always come to pass, no matter how hard he tried. Rather, I prefer to think that Curze accepted that it was going to be destroyed, but that it would be for a proper reason, not because of the hypocrisy of the Emperor. In the end, it wasn't insanity that motivated him, but the belief that he needed to demonstrate exactly what was required to keep the Imperium lawful. Nostramon society was collapsing in upon itself in the absence of law, the damage was too ingrained, and thus it had to be destroyed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2889355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Let's not forget that Curze demonstrates offensive psychic capabilities in The Dark King. Smells a bit like raw/untrained wild-talent to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2889389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I would say Talos isn't a psycher in the common sense of the term as he more than likely did not harbor any such potential as a child but was unlocked and developed by his geneseed altering his genetics and psyche. I believe the best term for Talos is that he is a Wyrd (taking this term from the Dark Heresy Radical's handbook) that he only possess a small spark of psychic ability given to him by his geneseed mutation. While not considered a full scale psycher, he is warp touched and so has the 'gift' of foresight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2891147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Maybe a lot of the NL psychers have vision and are plagued by them to this day according to there I.A. It's not mentioned if the other members of the legion suffer from this "curse". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2895642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander S. Caesare Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Talos has to be a psyker. He has the foresight aka Prophet. His abilities are probably nascent. Eisenhorn would agree hehe. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2895644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Index Astartes wrote that Night Haunter's visions of future are not related to warp (correct me if I am wrong though), so they are not psychic. Yet he used some soft of offensive spell on Terra. Talos should see the future in the same way Curze did, so he should not be a psyker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2897548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 They're definitely warp-based, and the IA article makes no attempt to say they aren't. It merely says that his foresight had different results than other examples of foresight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2898108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I'm guessing we'll find out more about his talent when Void Stalker gets released. Something about Eldar being involved screams for this to be looked at more closely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239466-so-is-talos-a-psyker/#findComment-2898630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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