Hashmalum Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Chaos is getting it's very own Contemptor in the IA: Apocalypse 2nd Ed. Rules are as following: Weapons: TL Heavy Bolter - 36" S5 AP4 Heavy 3, TL Multi-Melta - 24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1 TL Heavy Flamer - Template S5 AP4 Heavy 1, TL TL Autocannon - 48" S7 AP4 Heavy 2, TL Plasma Cannon - 36" S7 AP2 Heavy 1, Blast TL Lascannon - 48" S9 AP2 Heavy 1, TL Heavy Conversion Beamer DCCW w/ build in TLBolter Chainfist w/ build in TLBolter Exclusive Chaos Weapons: Butcher Cannon - 36" S8 AP4 Heavy 4 Soulburner - 24" S5 AP5 Assault 1, 3" blast, Rending, Ignores Cover DCCW Weapons: Heavy Flamer - Template S5 AP4 Heavy 1 Plasma Blaster - 18" S7 AP2 Assault 2, TL Additional Weapons: Havoc Launcher 48" S5 AP5 Assault 1, TL, Blast Special Rules: Fleet 4+ save against glancing hits 6 + save against penetrating hits NO Insanity Marks: Mark of Khorne - Rage and +D3 A on the charge Slaanesh - Offensive and Defensive Grenades, I5 Nurgle - -1 to Damage Chart Tzeentch - Bolter and Flamers become AP3, re-roll 1s in assault Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Mark of Khorne - Rage and +D3 A on the chargeSlaanesh - Offensive and Defensive Grenades, I5 Nurgle - -1 to Damage Chart Tzeentch - Bolter and Flamers become AP3, re-roll 1s in assault if only normal dreads have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Hard to evaluate without points costs, but the butcher cannon seems really nice, as well as an all Heavy Flamer Tzeentch one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_giles Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Special Rules:Fleet 4+ save against glancing hits 6 + save against penetrating hits NO Insanity Marks: Mark of Khorne - Rage and +D3 A on the charge Slaanesh - Offensive and Defensive Grenades, I5 Nurgle - -1 to Damage Chart Tzeentch - Bolter and Flamers become AP3, re-roll 1s in assault These, I like. Shame we can't give marks to our actual dreads; it'd make a Tzeentch heavy bolter dread into a freaking reaping machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Freakishly sweet. Both chaos guns look quite interesting. We don't have anything which ignores cover at range, so the soulburner could well prove useful. However, the 'almost-psyfleman' option of the Butcher Cannon looks too good to pass. I hope the Marks are priced 'correctly', because there is no option for all of us who play undivided, and it would suck if one or all of the marks are no-brainers compared to taking none. Oh, and I wonder why they have different inv.save rules compared to the loyalist ones? They are supposed to be using the same sort of machine, so that makes little sense from what I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 So my question is... Can you take two Butcher cannons on the same dread? If so is it cheap enough to compete with Riflemen/Psyflemen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_giles Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 So my question is... Can you take two Butcher cannons on the same dread? If so is it cheap enough to compete with Riflemen/Psyflemen?If its anything like what I've seen from the Imperial one, you won't. There doesn't seem to be an option for a Mortis dread. Which is perfectly fine by me; if I didn't go for a Thousand Sons bolter/flamer monstrosity, I'd go with straight Furioso and see how much fire it could draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 No Insanity rule, eh? Good stuff. I might actually buy one because of that. There was absolutely no way I was going to bother otherwise, and I'm sure I wasn't alone in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Oh, and I wonder why they have different inv.save rules compared to the loyalist ones? They are supposed to be using the same sort of machine, so that makes little sense from what I know. Don't forget that the rules that FW uploaded as a preview for the Contemptor dread was labeled experimental,and so where subject to changes. So there is a chance that those would also be the rules for the Imperial Contemptors. And those Chaos Contemptor rules comes just at the right time,when i'm doing a Contemptor conversion for my WE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hytanthas Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 The odd thing about this book is that it is strangely affordable at only 26.00 pounds. That's half off the price of the regular IA books. The contemptor looks like a nice option for Chaos but it is too slow for my army (Everyone has a transport, I have 6 rhinos). Are there any deep strike or drop pod options for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 No Insanity rule, eh? Good stuff. I might actually buy one because of that. There was absolutely no way I was going to bother otherwise, and I'm sure I wasn't alone in that. Agreed, and you were most definetley not alone, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Has anyone made a chaos contemptor yet? I'm working on one but I'm kinda lost as to what chaotic stuff to put on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Has anyone made a chaos contemptor yet? I'm working on one but I'm kinda lost as to what chaotic stuff to put on it.... There was one in the Dreadnought showcase thread not too long ago linky link There we go TDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menkeroth Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 An awesome dread! It's good to see Forge doesn't forget us :) but as for me its model ain't very good, i like modern Dread patterns ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDeath Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The butcher cannon looks awesome. Now i just hope that it isn't overcosted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashmalum Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 The butcher cannon looks awesome. Now i just hope that it isn't overcosted. The whole package is quite expensive I'm afraid. The Contemptor plus any mark is as expensive as the Chaos Landraider. While most of the weapon upgrades are reasonably prices, it still becomes a large and expensive firemagnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDeath Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The butcher cannon looks awesome. Now i just hope that it isn't overcosted. The whole package is quite expensive I'm afraid. The Contemptor plus any mark is as expensive as the Chaos Landraider. While most of the weapon upgrades are reasonably prices, it still becomes a large and expensive firemagnet. Meh, then it is useless. Well done FW but no av12 ( it was av12 wasn't it? ) vehicle/walker should be as expensive as a landraider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The imperial one is av 13 I think if remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashmalum Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 The butcher cannon looks awesome. Now i just hope that it isn't overcosted. The whole package is quite expensive I'm afraid. The Contemptor plus any mark is as expensive as the Chaos Landraider. While most of the weapon upgrades are reasonably prices, it still becomes a large and expensive firemagnet. Meh, then it is useless. Well done FW but no av12 ( it was av12 wasn't it? ) vehicle/walker should be as expensive as a landraider. It's AV 13/12/11 and has a save against both glancing and penetrating hits, so it's actually more survivable than a Predator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDeath Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The butcher cannon looks awesome. Now i just hope that it isn't overcosted. The whole package is quite expensive I'm afraid. The Contemptor plus any mark is as expensive as the Chaos Landraider. While most of the weapon upgrades are reasonably prices, it still becomes a large and expensive firemagnet. Meh, then it is useless. Well done FW but no av12 ( it was av12 wasn't it? ) vehicle/walker should be as expensive as a landraider. It's AV 13/12/11 and has a save against both glancing and penetrating hits, so it's actually more survivable than a Predator. Ah, somewhat better than i expected then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardwc Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The odd thing about this book is that it is strangely affordable at only 26.00 pounds. That's half off the price of the regular IA books. The contemptor looks like a nice option for Chaos but it is too slow for my army (Everyone has a transport, I have 6 rhinos). Are there any deep strike or drop pod options for them? Maybe you can transport it in a dreadclaw which rules are updated in the same book btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 The odd thing about this book is that it is strangely affordable at only 26.00 pounds. That's half off the price of the regular IA books. The contemptor looks like a nice option for Chaos but it is too slow for my army (Everyone has a transport, I have 6 rhinos). Are there any deep strike or drop pod options for them? Maybe you can transport it in a dreadclaw which rules are updated in the same book btw. Contemptor Dreads have the Fleet special rule also. But yeah throw it in a Dreadclaw should do the trick. Hope that the Dreadxlaw rules are nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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