Dosjetka Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 So, to cut things short, I got inspired to bang together some info about a DIY Chapter and this is what I have for the moment. I guess this all counts as "theme", though I'm not sure... ;) Goal -> rid the galaxy of the enemies of Mankind, wherever they may be found Autonomous and wandering Battle Companies Veteran and Scout Companies spread out among the Battle Companies Keep their armour and equipment operational but usually leave the scars of previous battles etched into the ceramite Infantry centered Independant Worship the God-Emperor Believe in martial skill, but also tactical skill and knowledge Pragmatic Honest and straight-forward Wear orange Fleet-based Do have a small system under their protection and, to a certain extent, rule but only maintain Chapter Keeps on those worlds and indirectly rule them -> main recruiting ground as well, but not the only one Most probably Middle-Eastern influences, but not exclusively -> rivalry between Bikers and Infantry (Ottoman Empire) While trained to use jump packs, prefer the use of Bikes (longer range, higher speed and more firepower) I'm guessing they're not too bothered about their brother Chapters, except maybe their parent Chapter and a Chapter to which they owe a blood debt or a Chapter which owes them a blood debt. As for the Imperium, they try to keep out as much as possible from internal strife and politics. Too much wasted time and hassle. Though if they feel that they need to intervene, they definitely will make themselves heard. The Battle Companies could be found pretty much anywhere, helping out where they can, gaining experience and a reputation. They're pretty young but not too new. Maybe 24th or 25th Founding. Gene-seed, taking into consideration the fact they they are quite rough-and-ready, is probably going to be Dorn's, but that may change. Their main recruitment area is the system they protect (mentioned in the first post), but I'm guessing the wandering Battle Companies are more than willing to recruit strong aspirants wherever they may be to fill the rank gaps that war inevitably makes. Oh, and they would take aspirants at their own accord, even if it displeases someone, such as a Planetary Governor who doesn't like his citizen's kids being taken away, never to be seen again, thus taking away potential soldiers/workers/etc.. Method of dealing with the Imperium (general idea) -> "It's a mix between pride and pragmatism. They believe it's pretty much a lost cause (mostly because of their belief that humans never stop squabbling between themselves) and a complete waste of time. They prefer action over drawn-out discussion and petty ambitions." Name ideas -> Something Marauders Now that I've pretty much thrown that into your faces, I'll commence the re-ordering of this whole pile of words ;) Any C&C is appreciated :) Ludovic Edit: Updated with extra info! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Sounds interesting, I like the idea of autonomous companies. How do they view other marines and the rest of the Imperium? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 How do they view other marines and the rest of the Imperium? Other Marines, heh? Well, I'm guessing they're not too bothered about their brother Chapters, except maybe their parent Chapter and a Chapter to which they owe a blood debt or a Chapter which owes them a blood debt. As for the Imperium, they try to keep out as much as possible from internal strife and politics. Too much wasted time and hassle. Though if they feel that they need to intervene, they definitely will make themselves heard. Cheers for commenting Reyner ;) Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 How far do the Companies wander by the way? Close to their home system or all over the galaxy? What founding are you thinking for these guys, they been around for years or newbies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 How far do the Companies wander by the way? Close to their home system or all over the galaxy? What founding are you thinking for these guys, they been around for years or newbies? I'd say they could be found pretty much anywhere, helping out where they can, gaining experience and a reputation. As for Founding, I'd say pretty young but not too new. Maybe 24th or 25th Founding. Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Coolio. Hmm what else can I ask... Ah-ha! Figured out a colour scheme yet? I don't know much about the Ottoman empire or the middle east so I can't really ask about the theme. Thought much about their recruitment or gene-seed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Ah-ha! Figured out a colour scheme yet? I put in the list but you must have missed it: orange :) Heresy, I know, but I like orange Marines. Thought much about their recruitment or gene-seed? Gene-seed, taking into consideration the fact they they are quite rough-and-ready, is probably going to be Dorn's, but that may change. Recruitment... well, their main recruitment area is the system they protect (mentioned in the first post), but I'm guessing the wandering Battle Companies are more than willing to recruit strong aspirants wherever they may be to fill the rank gaps that war inevitably makes. Oh, and they would take aspirants at their own accord, even if it displeases someone, such as a Planetary Governor who doesn't like his citizen's kids being taken away, never to be seen again, thus taking away potential soldiers/workers/etc.. Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I saw the orange bit lol just thinking have you made up a full scheme for them, or are they literally going to be just orange? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 I was thinking something more like this :) Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Bang tidy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Bang tidy. Cheers :) Glad you like it. Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 What's the next step then Ludovic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 What's the next step then Ludovic? Making coherent sentences and paragraphs with the list above :) Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2894781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Not bad, have a name for them yet? Something Marauders or Somethings Errant or even Something Crusaders all sound appropiate. Do they have a more prideful approach to their method of dealing with the rest of the Imperium (we're too good/holy/noble for politics), or pragmatic (we don't have time for this, give me a second while we kill these and we'll get back to you) or humble (this isn't what we were created for, so let the people who were handle it)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2895189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hello Thirst -_- Cheers for popping by. No, no name yet, but you have very valid suggestions, so I'll definitely take those into account. It's a mix between pride and pragmatism. They believe it's pretty much a lost cause (mostly because of their belief that humans never stop squabbling between themselves) and a complete waste of time. They prefer action over drawn-out discussion and petty ambitions. Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2895240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hello Thirst :D Cheers for popping by. No, no name yet, but you have very valid suggestions, so I'll definitely take those into account. It's a mix between pride and pragmatism. They believe it's pretty much a lost cause (mostly because of their belief that humans never stop squabbling between themselves) and a complete waste of time. They prefer action over drawn-out discussion and petty ambitions. Ludovic Got it... now put that in your IA. Start putting the meat on these bones! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2895386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorHayn Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 So we've got a nomadic force of angry bikers and whirling dervishes who wander the galaxy slaying things and pissing people off...and wearing orange. I love it. I guess the only thing I'd have thus far is how do they facilitate the trained recruits finding their way to the scattered Battle Companies? Do the fleets make regular trips back to their Homeworld? Oh, and what exactly are you doing for as far as the Middle Eastern thing? It doesn't happen that often, so I'm curious. Gotcha covered, Reyner. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2895886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 Got it... now put that in your IA. Start putting the meat on these bones! ;) Done that ;) So we've got a nomadic force of angry bikers and whirling dervishes who wander the galaxy slaying things and pissing people off...and wearing orange. I love it. Cool. I'm glad you like them :) I guess the only thing I'd have thus far is how do they facilitate the trained recruits finding their way to the scattered Battle Companies? Do the fleets make regular trips back to their Homeworld? Will think about that and get you a reply later today or tomorrow. Oh, and what exactly are you doing for as far as the Middle Eastern thing? It doesn't happen that often, so I'm curious. Gotcha covered, Reyner. ;) Well after doing quite a bit of research on the Web, I pretty much "fell in love" with the ancient Middle-Eastern civilisations and will try and include some stuff taken from their cultures into my IA :) Cheers, Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2895906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbyssKnight Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 So a zealous, martial, crusading, fleet based, infantry focused, Dorn successor wandering around in independant companies to destroy the enemies of humankind and doesn't give a flip about want other Imperial factions say. So they are Black Templars in Orange? Actually, I like the idea. I like the idea of focusing on bikes, the color scheme is good, and I like the idea of Ottoman/Arab flavor to contrast with the Crusader theme of the BTs. Use curved swords (power falchions and scimatars, steal chaos chain swords). For the name, I would stay away from Crusader or Errant (and Templar). Both have Western connotations when you are aiming for a more Eastern theme. I think Marauder is okay though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2896106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 For the name, I would stay away from Crusader or Errant (and Templar). Both have Western connotations when you are aiming for a more Eastern theme. I think Marauder is okay though. Very valid points, thank you :) And I'm glad you like them! Cheers, Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2896121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 A lot of these ideas look vaguely familiar. :) That's not a bad thing, of course. Hopefully you get a bit further through this idea this time! ;) Well after doing quite a bit of research on the Web, I pretty much "fell in love" with the ancient Middle-Eastern civilisations and will try and include some stuff taken from their cultures into my IA :) OK, that's new. ^_^ Sounds interesting - I'll keep my eyes open for any updtaes you throw our way, and see if I can't add anything helpful. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2896959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 A lot of these ideas look vaguely familiar. :) I know the wandering Companies were inspired from one of your IA's (not sure which one though ^_^), but for the rest, what's familiar and do you mean that you may have seen stuff like this in other people's IA's? Hopefully you get a bit further through this idea this time! ;) *ahem* :) OK, that's new. :) Sounds interesting - I'll keep my eyes open for any updtaes you throw our way, and see if I can't add anything helpful. ;) Yes, there are some new things ;) OK, cheers Ace! Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2896967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 A lot of these ideas look vaguely familiar. :) I know the wandering Companies were inspired from one of your IA's (not sure which one though :huh:), but for the rest, what's familiar and do you mean that you may have seen stuff like this in other people's IA's? Actually, I meant that your present idea seems to draw on some of your previous ideas. That or it's just coincidence that your last three chapters all worship the Emperor and are fundamentally pragmatists who do whatever's most effective to secure victory. :P It's not a bad thing though - far from it! I'm looking forward to seeing these guys develop. :P Also I'm pleased to discover that my vaguely-desert-culture inspired Chapter has inspired you to make a similar chapter of your own! Guess I must have got something right, haha. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2896989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Well, if you're going with an Ottoman/Middle Eastern spin on your chapter, I'd suggest naming them something along the lines of "Lions of somewhere", to play up their bravery and determination. "Horsemen of somewhere" could be an option, as Middle Eastern military culture associates honor and heroism to the horseman.. Assuming your infantry can relate to the term as well. :D Another alternative could be the "Somewhereian Mamelukes". Before they decided to take over, they were a highly elite military outfit. They even pushed back the Mongols on several battles! Easy to relate, as you can see. ;) You might also want to take a look at this thread to inspire you in the artistic direction of your chapter's melee weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2897045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 I guess the only thing I'd have thus far is how do they facilitate the trained recruits finding their way to the scattered Battle Companies? Do the fleets make regular trips back to their Homeworld? Will think about that and get you a reply later today or tomorrow. Well, I can finally reply: I'm thinking of making the Battle Companies fully capable of training their own recruits all the way to Battle-Brother, though if there is a shortage of Astartes among a Battle Companies' ranks, then when all the Companies return to the **** system every hundred years to celebrate the founding of their Chapter, they will take on recruits from the Reserve Companies. In effect, there is no Scout Company, as there is no Veteran Company. I'm tempted to add on two more Battle-Companies to make the total the usual ten, but I'm not sure... Thoughts? Actually, I meant that your present idea seems to draw on some of your previous ideas.That or it's just coincidence that your last three chapters all worship the Emperor and are fundamentally pragmatists who do whatever's most effective to secure victory. B) It's not a bad thing though - far from it! I'm looking forward to seeing these guys develop. ^_^ Also I'm pleased to discover that my vaguely-desert-culture inspired Chapter has inspired you to make a similar chapter of your own! Guess I must have got something right, haha. :D Ah, well I'd say that's pretty normal, as I really want to make a Chapter of Astartes who conform to my idea of the "near-perfect" Astartes Chapter. And, to be honest, I'm not surprised that your IA's inspire me, I really enjoy them and my imagination seems to like them too :P Well, if you're going with an Ottoman/Middle Eastern spin on your chapter, I'd suggest naming them something along the lines of "Lions of somewhere", to play up their bravery and determination. "Horsemen of somewhere" could be an option, as Middle Eastern military culture associates honor and heroism to the horseman.. Assuming your infantry can relate to the term as well. :P Another alternative could be the "Somewhereian Mamelukes". Before they decided to take over, they were a highly elite military outfit. They even pushed back the Mongols on several battles! Easy to relate, as you can see. ;) You might also want to take a look at this thread to inspire you in the artistic direction of your chapter's melee weapons. Thank you WCA! Will reflect upon those names! And cheers for the link :) Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/239913-ere-we-goagain/#findComment-2897400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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