Grotsmasha Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 So, I've decided on the following basic paint scheme for my Dornian Heresy Unforgiven and am calling my merry little band The Heralds of Vengeance. I've added the Red in to signify their rage at Luther s betrayal. What I need help with is modelling the details. Chapter Symbol: It can't be the DA symbol as I assume this is still born by the "Fallen" Legion. I was thinking of the little angel symbol with the sword and shield? TDA: as the few suits of TDA (6) I intend on having in the army are Pre-Heresy, they obviously don't have the Crux Terminatus, but what do they have? Is the Chapter symbol still on the right? Or is the Chapter symbol on the left and something else on the right? Cheers, and thanks in advance, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 So are these Lutherites Dark Angels or followers of the Primarch? It sounds more like the latter then the former. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2906746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 So are these Lutherites Dark Angels or followers of the Primarch? It sounds more like the latter then the former. Nice save!! I thought I was to recieve no replies :'( They are followers of the Lion, I'm working on a Contempter version of him. Basically this "Herald of Vengeance" is gathering Unforgiven and is waging war on the "Fallen" Dark Angels, his little band is about 100 strong. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2906764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 So are these Lutherites Dark Angels or followers of the Primarch? It sounds more like the latter then the former. Nice save!! I thought I was to recieve no replies :'( They are followers of the Lion, I'm working on a Contempter version of him. Basically this "Herald of Vengeance" is gathering Unforgiven and is waging war on the "Fallen" Dark Angels, his little band is about 100 strong. Cheers, Jono Oh, that is your project. I was going to recommend to for you to look up the Primarch Dreadnaught. I'm a fan of your work so far. I can't wait to see them painted. As for your original post: I can see that color scheme working, but I'm ambivalent about the Red Arm for rage thing. Even though stubborn and semi prone to rages, I don't see the Lion's loyalists being so brazen about it. The DA leave subtle clues in their heraldry over telegraphed messages. That being said, I don't have a better idea as to how to represent it. As for the chapter symbol, Why not use the Angels of Vengeance symbol as a starting point? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2906784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 I hadn't even thought of the successor badges!! I'll bust out the codex and have a look. As for the red, I understand your point, but I figure after such a betrayal the DA's might have issues holding back when face to face with members of the fallen Legion. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2906803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 After thinking about it, I have an idea. Luther was the right hand of the Primarch (or was supposed to be). To signify this betrayal, the Angels of Vengeance paint their right hand and vambrace in bone white (the Norm-verse Deathwing color and symbolizing the white of rage at this betrayal) once they are taught of Luther's actions and are recovered into the Lion's fold. The right hands are not to be repainted until Luther has been brought to justice. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2906813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 So, I've decided on the following basic paint scheme for my Dornian Heresy Unforgiven and am calling my merry little band The Heralds of Vengeance. I've added the Red in to signify their rage at Luther s betrayal. What I need help with is modelling the details. Chapter Symbol: It can't be the DA symbol as I assume this is still born by the "Fallen" Legion. I was thinking of the little angel symbol with the sword and shield? TDA: as the few suits of TDA (6) I intend on having in the army are Pre-Heresy, they obviously don't have the Crux Terminatus, but what do they have? Is the Chapter symbol still on the right? Or is the Chapter symbol on the left and something else on the right? Cheers, and thanks in advance, Jono Is this what you're planning on taking to Hammer of the Gods in March Jono? Would be a nice scheme to see :D I'd use a more stylised version of the DA symbol, IE the wing pieces further apart and the sword squatter to theme it with the pre-Heresy style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2906935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 @ blackoption: It's funny you say white/bone, these guys were originally a DA successor chapter, the scheme was white arm for scouts darkening to Red Gore for Deathwing to indicate level of Inner Circle knowledge. It represented their purity turning to rage as they gained that knowledge. So when I switched to Dornian Heresy Unforgiven I just went straight to the red. @Skirax: Sadly, as a True Scale force mounted on 30mm bases this will be a non-tournament, friendlies only army. As for the Chapter symbol, I'm trying to stay away from the DA legion symbol, as I want them active within the Imperium as unknown/unexpected ally (think LotD appearances), so they cant be mistaken as the Fallen Legion. Cheers, Jono P.S. Anyone know about the PH termi shoulder pads and Legion symbol location? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2907012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I was thinking less of the whole arm and more the hand and vambrace. Past the elbow seems a little too attention getting in my mind. But I do find the connect amusing between my idea and the original source material. Where is that in the dark angels codex? I don't remember reading that in mine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2907287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Na, not codex, purely DIY, I just meant It's funny that your suggestion mirrored my original thoughts. Cheers, jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2907950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Ah... well great minds think alike. Although, I'm still favoring just the lower arm as opposed to the entire arm. Still, I am interested in seeing how they will turn out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2908480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Hm. This depends on the mark of armour.. Mk 5 had the studs, and I'm pretty sure the mk6 had a studded left pauldron.. So yeah, the chapter symbol would likely be on the right pauldron. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2913367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hm. This depends on the mark of armour.. Mk 5 had the studs, and I'm pretty sure the mk6 had a studded left pauldron.. So yeah, the chapter symbol would likely be on the right pauldron. I thought that was just Power Armour? Termi armour doesn't have multiple types/mks does it? Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240193-modelling-dornian-heresy-unforgiven/#findComment-2914021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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