Grimdarkness Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 So what do you want to see in the next D.A HH book. 1. I'd like to see the lion a little more human and less automaton. 2. The lack of trust between the caliban and terran marines what dose the primarch think was he the fulcrum. 3. Some hint's about the duality of the legion. 4. Show the lion as the military genius he was/is. 5. The name Lion El'jonson we all know it's gothic for child of the forest what if it was changed to Lyyn Elgonsen being the caliban name for child of the forest Lion El'jonson being the high gothic translation of the caliban name? 6 Be a book about the legion not including the DOA plot line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine5 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 How about something that involves all the Unforgiven chapters having to pull together for a massive search and battle with some traitors. Then have the Inquisitation get mixed in. That would be a good read. Then once again Cypher gets away, yet again! Damn the Inquisitation. Marine5 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2898985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 How about something that involves all the Unforgiven chapters having to pull together for a massive search and battle with some traitors. Then have the Inquisitation get mixed in. That would be a good read. Then once again Cypher gets away, yet again! Damn the Inquisitation. Marine5 We aren't split into chapters until sometime after the Heresy. :jaw: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 So what do you want to see in the next D.A HH book. 1. I'd like to see the lion a little more human and less automaton. YES! 2. The lack of trust between the caliban and terran marines YES! (but not overplayed...) 3. Some hint's about the duality of the legion. ??? Care to elaborate? you lost me there... Are you refering to those send to Caliban? 4. Show the lion as the military genius he was/is. YES PLEASE!!! All we are getting so far is how a great military leader the Lion is but no actual facts! I want to see him conduct a large scale campaign and emerge victorious. 5. The name Lion El'jonson we all know it's gothic for child of the forest what if it was changed to Lyyn Elgonsen being the caliban name for child of the forest Lion El'jonson being the high gothic translation of the caliban name? Ermm, no? I don't think the name of the Primarch should be a major part of a HH book. He's Lion El'Johnson better known as "the Lion"- it means what it means, let's leave it at that and move on with the story... 6 Be a book about the legion not including the DOA plot line. YES! This is in fact the easiest point to agree on. Get rid of the Nemiels and the Zachariels and the lot and just show us the Lion already!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 id love too see the team up of russ and johnson fighting there way to terra to save the day (yep i know they get there too late) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 ??? Care to elaborate? you lost me there... Are you refering to those send to Caliban? I was thinking more along the lines of the circle within circle's idea but since that was a terran marine tradition brought to the legion it may not jive with the new background. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismolai Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I'd love to read about The Lion and the Wolf (the campaign the Dark Angels and Space Wolves fought together) in which the Lion and Russ end up coming to blows. It would be very interesting seeing as how the two primarchs are completely different, but they had to work together in a theatre of war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 I'd love to read about The Lion and the Wolf (the campaign the Dark Angels and Space Wolves fought together) in which the Lion and Russ end up coming to blows.It would be very interesting seeing as how the two primarchs are completely different, but they had to work together in a theatre of war. That well most likely happen. What I'm worried about is it turing into a Space Wolf book with a D.A support cast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 i could see that turning into a wicked charictor vischale for both the lion and russ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Edgimus Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 nice way it could be done but is unlikely as they've already done it with a wolf book would be to split it into two books for two different perspectives. thousand sons/prospero burns Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Turnbull Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 You will all be delighted to know that an announced upcoming Horus Heresy book called 'The Primarchs' is coming, and Lion El Johnson gets his own story. A story about the Lion! Not the Dark Angels, but the Lion. Is this what we've long been waiting for, or will it be a flop? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 One can only hope brother, one can only hope... I understand it is written by Gav Thorpe, right? Angels of Darkness was a hit in my view but Kadillus was a miss... Anyway I certainly look forward to it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I'd like to see a DA book like Prospero Burns. Not actually advancing the H.H storyline so much as just sitting down and advancing the character of the Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 You will all be delighted to know that an announced upcoming Horus Heresy book called 'The Primarchs' is coming, and Lion El Johnson gets his own story. A story about the Lion! Not the Dark Angels, but the Lion. Is this what we've long been waiting for, or will it be a flop? Yeah the book that's cover has what one of the primarch in the book featured on the cover. Shake head ohh G.W. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2899972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arioch Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The Lion beating the snot out of Curze in a rematch? :rolleyes: Or at least a prober battle between the Nigthlords and Dark Angels, I want a rematch! As most people are saying: The Lion and the Wolf, their journey towards Terra, the difficulties between the soldiers and the primarchs. Could be potential awsome, especially if they switched viewpoint for each chapter in the book. The Lion using the Lionhelm A larger use of terminators and bikes in the Legion (actually a prober battle would be good, most have been small conflicts, skirmishes, strikeforces- its a damn legion for christ´s sake). More kickass Dark Angels (Corswain was a good start). The story about how Astelan sucked and the Lion was awsome...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2900204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The Lion beating the snot out of Curze in a rematch? :P Or at least a prober battle between the Nigthlords and Dark Angels, I want a rematch! As most people are saying: The Lion and the Wolf, their journey towards Terra, the difficulties between the soldiers and the primarchs. Could be potential awsome, especially if they switched viewpoint for each chapter in the book. The Lion using the Lionhelm A larger use of terminators and bikes in the Legion (actually a prober battle would be good, most have been small conflicts, skirmishes, strikeforces- its a damn legion for christ´s sake). More kickass Dark Angels (Corswain was a good start). The story about how Astelan sucked and the Lion was awsome...? I agree with everything Arioch said! And yes the "Curze beats the Lion in one to one combat" was absurd in the first place. And the Lion NEEDS some awesomeness boost, because right now he's got virtually nothing going for him in this department. Even in areas where he is supposed to be awesome ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2900215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The Lion beating the snot out of Curze in a rematch? ;) Or at least a prober battle between the Nigthlords and Dark Angels, I want a rematch! As most people are saying: The Lion and the Wolf, their journey towards Terra, the difficulties between the soldiers and the primarchs. Could be potential awsome, especially if they switched viewpoint for each chapter in the book. The Lion using the Lionhelm A larger use of terminators and bikes in the Legion (actually a prober battle would be good, most have been small conflicts, skirmishes, strikeforces- its a damn legion for christ´s sake). More kickass Dark Angels (Corswain was a good start). The story about how Astelan sucked and the Lion was awsome...? I agree with everything Arioch said! And yes the "Curze beats the Lion in one to one combat" was absurd in the first place. And the Lion NEEDS some awesomeness boost, because right now he's got virtually nothing going for him in this department. Even in areas where he is supposed to be awesome :wacko: Just to dig up a dead horse and flog it further still- the Lion kicks Curze about town when they are engaged in hand to hand combat, Curze is well aware of this so he levels the playing field by fighting like an animal. Some dude jumping on top of you and choking you is not an indicator of skill. It was made quite clear in the story that the Lion is in fact the bomb when hes wielding a sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2900306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGXH Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Some dude jumping on top of you and choking you is not an indicator of skill. And therein is the issue for some. Curze does his patented Two Fisted Monkey Style Attack, and Lion forgets how to dodge, block and parry. :) The fight would have continued on regardless of it occuring or not, but it is kind of comical to think a hyperactive body splash is greater than superior swordsmanship. Still, let us not forget that Curze is a badass. and he's kind of crazy as all hell which makes him difficult to predict. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2900340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobrakei Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Maybe seeing if the Terran Marines were loyal. Would be an amazing twist if the Calibanites were the ones who became the Fallen...Also looking forward to the Scouring era if they decide to do that. It'd be great to read about the first realisations that the Fallen exist, and the response of the newly formed Unforgiven. Hopefully it'd be more politically based with small amount of full on action. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2900349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arioch Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Maybe seeing if the Terran Marines were loyal. Would be an amazing twist if the Calibanites were the ones who became the Fallen...Also looking forward to the Scouring era if they decide to do that. It'd be great to read about the first realisations that the Fallen exist, and the response of the newly formed Unforgiven. Hopefully it'd be more politically based with small amount of full on action. Well, Astellan was a terran, so that is not going to happend. I think the whole terran/calibanite conflict is a bit of. Obviously, most of the traitors/fallen will be from Caliban, as most of them consisted of recruits from Caliban, but as far as I can see there is no terran/calibanite conflict, most of the garrison on Caliban simply defects to chaos, regardless of former allegiance. Im not at all displeased with the outcome of the figth in "Savage weapons"....but we DA do like to have our vengeance...oh yes, sweet bloody vengeance! I demand satisfaction! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2900366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I want to see most of what was posted.I also want to see a scene of the lion exiting his lander/ship and stepping on terra for the first time after the HH and his reaction to what happened there and the fact that he was unable to do something about the siege and save his father.A scene in front of the interned emperor on the throne and the Lion kneeling and depicting his emotions would be epic. I also want to see his opinions regarding the codex astartes,guillimans reforms and how did the unforgiven decided to circumvent it in order to retain the legion status. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2901007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 I want to see most of what was posted.I also want to see a scene of the lion exiting his lander/ship and stepping on terra for the first time after the HH and his reaction to what happened there and the fact that he was unable to do something about the siege and save his father.A scene in front of the interned emperor on the throne and the Lion kneeling and depicting his emotions would be epic. I also want to see his opinions regarding the codex astartes,guillimans reforms and how did the unforgiven decided to circumvent it in order to retain the legion status. Yes me too. I also want to see the reaction's of Dorn The Khan and what remains of the blood angles legion to guilliman late arrival. Heck russ and the lion as well after there dust up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240201-since-everyone-seems-to-be-posting-one/#findComment-2901024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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