LPetersson Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 So, I was wondering, those of you who has a contemptor for your SW force, how are they working out for you and how have you configured them? I have just this evening put in an order for one with two fists and a CML. That seems fairly fluffy and will certainly fit my force :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 anybody seen or read the entry of the SW Contemptor? heres what i gleemed (dont know why i put it in spoiler tags, just in case somebody has the apoc book on order and wants to wait to read it themselves. Basically the SW entry makes it clear Fluff wise why Bjorn is not in a contemplator. Basically those inturned in contemplators were prone to bloodlust and excessive overkilling. The wolf priests were hesitant to put great warriors in them, Hence Bjorn is in the more easily maintained and safer version. Its said about comtemplators that the SW look at them with an equal mix of awe and supicion. (not in the supersiosios way but more in the way that they are unstable/ like they would at a SW who is showing signs of being wolf bitten) Also they get sagas that give them things like +armour pen roles and armoury stuff like wolf tooth necklaces and talismans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2902407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Beef, have those rules been released yet? I thought they were in the next FW IA book that's got Bran and whatnot. Or is this in the new Apoc book I've yet to pick up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2902592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Is the wolf contemptor elite or heavy support? My elite slots are always full... :) I guess the Contemptor is for those Apoc games anyway, so the actual slot doesn't matter... I'll very much buy one for my army as soon as I can decide what armament to order it with. And that means I need to see the rules first. Unless you guys already have good suggestions for the arms, which ones to buy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2902654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 anybody seen or read the entry of the SW Contemptor? heres what i gleemed (dont know why i put it in spoiler tags, just in case somebody has the apoc book on order and wants to wait to read it themselves. Basically the SW entry makes it clear Fluff wise why Bjorn is not in a contemplator. Basically those inturned in contemplators were prone to bloodlust and excessive overkilling. The wolf priests were hesitant to put great warriors in them, Hence Bjorn is in the more easily maintained and safer version. Its said about comtemplators that the SW look at them with an equal mix of awe and supicion. (not in the supersiosios way but more in the way that they are unstable/ like they would at a SW who is showing signs of being wolf bitten) Also they get sagas that give them things like +armour pen roles and armoury stuff like wolf tooth necklaces and talismans. Thanks Beef, that's good to know. I'm waiting for my local GW to get the new IA book. What you say matches what I'm hoping to do quite well as I want to make mine a close combat beast with a CML on top. although I disagree on one thing, there is no such thing as overkill :) Beef, have those rules been released yet? I thought they were in the next FW IA book that's got Bran and whatnot. Or is this in the new Apoc book I've yet to pick up? I believe, and I could be wrong, that they are in the new Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2nd edition book (http://goo.gl/xQC2L) as opposed to the coming book with SW and DE. Is the wolf contemptor elite or heavy support? My elite slots are always full... :) I guess the Contemptor is for those Apoc games anyway, so the actual slot doesn't matter... I'll very much buy one for my army as soon as I can decide what armament to order it with. And that means I need to see the rules first. Unless you guys already have good suggestions for the arms, which ones to buy? I am under the impression the Contemptor is an elite choice and it is valid for normal games of 40k, not just Apoc. You can see the experimental rules here http://goo.gl/E95d9 although they might be different in the IA book. To my mind, you need to decide whether yours should be long range, mid range or close up delivered by Lucius Pattern Drop Pod ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2902667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Yeah...that's something I noted on another thread. While it presently isn't explicitly stated (and therefore RAW, isn't legal), FW has apparently suggested to another B&Cer that the Lucius Pattern pod will support Contemptor pattern Dreadnoughts. Eventually. When they get round to fixing that via errata or new publication. At present, they're hoofing it with Bjorn. As for load-out...magnetize the hell outta the guy and get the shedload, is my advice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2902692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 anybody seen or read the entry of the SW Contemptor? heres what i gleemed (dont know why i put it in spoiler tags, just in case somebody has the apoc book on order and wants to wait to read it themselves. Basically the SW entry makes it clear Fluff wise why Bjorn is not in a contemplator. Basically those inturned in contemplators were prone to bloodlust and excessive overkilling. The wolf priests were hesitant to put great warriors in them, Hence Bjorn is in the more easily maintained and safer version. Its said about comtemplators that the SW look at them with an equal mix of awe and supicion. (not in the supersiosios way but more in the way that they are unstable/ like they would at a SW who is showing signs of being wolf bitten) Also they get sagas that give them things like +armour pen roles and armoury stuff like wolf tooth necklaces and talismans. Thanks Beef, that's good to know. I'm waiting for my local GW to get the new IA book. What you say matches what I'm hoping to do quite well as I want to make mine a close combat beast with a CML on top. although I disagree on one thing, there is no such thing as overkill ;) Thats true Beef, have those rules been released yet? I thought they were in the next FW IA book that's got Bran and whatnot. Or is this in the new Apoc book I've yet to pick up? Nope I believe, and I could be wrong, that they are in the new Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2nd edition book (http://goo.gl/xQC2L) as opposed to the coming book with SW and DE. COrrect Is the wolf contemptor elite or heavy support? My elite slots are always full... ;) I guess the Contemptor is for those Apoc games anyway, so the actual slot doesn't matter... I'll very much buy one for my army as soon as I can decide what armament to order it with. And that means I need to see the rules first. Unless you guys already have good suggestions for the arms, which ones to buy? Go with what looks good, forget the rules I am under the impression the Contemptor is an elite choice and it is valid for normal games of 40k, not just Apoc. You can see the experimental rules here http://goo.gl/E95d9 although they might be different in the IA book. Correct, although the SW version and the BA version have their own snazzy special rules To my mind, you need to decide whether yours should be long range, mid range or close up delivered by Lucius Pattern Drop Pod ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2902780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the knife Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Is the overkilling penchant due to the nature of the machine spirit within the Contemptor or has it not been fully explained yet? I ask because I've read that some machine spirits like the ones in titans are violent and actively attempt to subsume the personality of the pilot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2903023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muadib02 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Pretty much spot on with the contemptor bits. The new rules for the lucious pattern drop pod are awesome too...and let you give Bjorn a transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2903249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Muadib, are you serious? It lets Bjorn hitch a ride, too?! Now THAT is something I hadn't expected. Looks like I need a couple Lucius pods.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2903505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taeken Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ooooh Bjorn in apod... dang you FW now I have to spend even more $! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2903983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ooooh Bjorn in apod... dang you FW now I have to spend even more $! No you dont, just use a normal drop pod and state its a Lucious. However i am not sure Bjorn can still use it. The difference between the lucious and normal drop pods for dreads is that dreds can assualt straight out of a Lucious. This is shown in the points difference between the drop pods. The luciosu is 65 pts if i remember correctly. If Bjorn does not have a tarnsport option than surely he cant take this unless GW FAQ this. Right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2904064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Is the overkilling penchant due to the nature of the machine spirit within the Contemptor or has it not been fully explained yet? I ask because I've read that some machine spirits like the ones in titans are violent and actively attempt to subsume the personality of the pilot. suprisingly its only the SW ones that suffer the extra violent urges, hence they are not trusted by their own warriors. Its just the Fluff explanation by GW to explain why somebody as beloved of the chapter as Bjorn is not in an older dred like the contemptor. Yet suprisingly on the chaos entry it says they do not suffer the madness common to the newer marks of dred armour we usually see. So the Chaos Contemptors are very much in control of their sences unlike their newer counterparts and many chaor lords keep a few empty one for themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2904068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Tekka Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I can't wait untill the GW stores get the apoc second edition book in so I can swing in and grab it. I'm really looking forward to running a contemptor as I love dreads of all types and it sounds like exactly what I've been looking for. A dread to run in and punch things in the face! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240453-sw-contemptor/#findComment-2905278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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