*Furyou Miko Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I've been reading the Grey Knight codex, and... well, I know how popular Coteaz pure-henchman armies are, or those that use Coteaz as a source of cheap scoring units, but... Henchman squads don't take up slots in the FoC. This isn't limited to the Elites section. The codex just says "This unit does not take up a force organisation slot." That means that they can't fulfil the FoC requirement for 2 Troops choices - because making them Troops and removing the "one per Inquisitor" limit doesn't make them take up FoC slots. Has this just been overlooked? Or is there an FAQ that says that Coteaz forces Henchman units to take up FoC slots? As Written, at the moment, you can have an army like this (Although you probably wouldn't want to): HQ Inquisitor Coteaz Troops 5 GKT 5 PAGK Henchman squad -10 Death Cult Assassins Henchman squad -10 Death Cult Assassins Henchman squad -Banisher, 2 Crusaders, 4 Arco-Flaggelants, 5 Servitors, Henchman squad -Banisher, 2 Crusaders, 4 Arco-Flaggelants 5 Servitors Henchman squad -10 Crusaders Henchman squad -10 Crusaders Henchman squad -9 Daemonhosts, Banisher Henchman squad -9 Daemonhosts, Banisher Henchman squad -Mystic, 2 Crusaders, 2 Psykers, 3 Warriors w/PA+Bolter, 3 Warriors w/PA, Meltagun+Storm Shield, Chimera Heavy Support LR Redeemer But you legally can't field the following list (Taken from Army List Reviews), because it has no compulsory Troops; HQ Coteaz Elites 5 Purifiers (2 Psycannon) in Rhino (Searchlight, Storm Bolter and HK Missile) 5 Purifiers (2 Psycannon) in Rhino (Searchlight, Storm Bolter and HK Missile) 5 Purifiers (2 Psycannon) in Rhino (Searchlight, Storm Bolter and HK Missile) 'Troops' 3 Warrior Acolytes (3 Bolter) in Razorback (Twin-Linked Lascannon, Storm Bolter, HK Missile and Searchlight) 3 Warrior Acolytes (3 Bolter) in Razorback (Twin-Linked Lascannon, Storm Bolter, HK Missile and Searchlight) 3 Warrior Acolytes (3 Bolter) in Razorback (Twin-Linked Lascannon, Storm Bolter, HK Missile and Searchlight) 3 Warrior Acolytes (3 Bolter) in Razorback (Twin-Linked Lascannon, Storm Bolter, HK Missile and Searchlight) 3 Warrior Acolytes (3 Bolter) in Razorback (Twin-Linked Lascannon, Storm Bolter, HK Missile and Searchlight) 3 Warrior Acolytes (3 Bolter) in Razorback (Twin-Linked Lascannon, Storm Bolter, HK Missile and Searchlight) Heavy Support 5 Purgators (2 Psycannon) in Rhino (Searchlight, Storm Bolter and HK Missile) 5 Purgators (2 Psycannon) in Rhino (Searchlight, Storm Bolter and HK Missile) 5 Purgators (2 Psycannon) in Rhino (Searchlight, Storm Bolter and HK Missile) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I believe the FAQ makes it so they take up Troops slots if used in a Coteaz army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2903815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2903822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Yep, it does indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2903863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Yea, they fixed this already with the FAQ. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2903874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 A new question: Three of your Warriors in each Henchman squad can take special equipment. The way it reads, you can create a 50 point-odd Warrior by giving her Power Armour, a Meltagun and a Storm Shield. Is this true? Because that model sounds awesome. (Also, why is a Warrior with PS and SS three times the price of a Crusader who is otherwise identical?!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2903918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Short version: Yup, it is :lol: Happy modelling! Long version: as far as the price upgrade, I've no real idea. I assume it's because they're not necessary thinking in terms of combinations, and the warrior henchmen is kinda the default for "any wacky thing we haven't invented yet". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2903976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Since the old WH/DH books are now gone and there are no weapons that ignore invulnerable saves (while still potentially allowing armor saves...the Necron melee weapons not withstanding) there's really no reason to take a storm shield (3++) and power armor (3+) on a model when it may take one or the other. <3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2904033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 That's true... hehe, I guess it would be a bit of a waste to use a Shieldbreaker on a henchman. On the other hand, a Sororitas with a Storm Shield and a Meltagun would look awesome, would it not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2904233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon_77 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 YES! Send pics when you finish ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2904463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Haha, I'll see what I can do. I do have a Sister whose pose might be manageable... or I guess I could use a Canoness, but I'd have to buy a new one for that and I can't afford food right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2904959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liba terminatus Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I want to see pics too :jaw:... You could try rationing food :P Hang on, I'm pretty sure necrons have "Anti-invulnerable" gear. But perhaps for not much longer ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2906878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Everything in the Necron army that can ignore Invulnerable saves also ignores normal saves. Also, I think I might actually have the bitz already... although it does mean magnetising my Heavy Bolter, which I kinda didn't want to waste magnets on (not when I'm converting a second Valkyrie for full weapons options, anyway!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2907042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yeah not much longer now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240542-coteaz/#findComment-2907094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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