MagicMan Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 So im about to use my first Special Character that has a rule that replaces combat tactics fairly soon, i decided to try Vulkan out since he had all the same equipment as my normal captain + a heavy flamer and a new nifty rule for about 20 points more. My question concerns his Chapter Tactics rule that replaces Combat Tactics. If he dies during the battle, do my units revert back to Combat Tactics or does Chapter Tactics replace it for the entire battle? Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 for the most part chapter tactics is there for the whole game regardless of the Ic being on the board or not, there are some exceptions. IIRC calgars god of war ability only works when hes in play, but i dont have my codex at hand to check this, its from memory (so take with a pinch or two) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2903904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ah cool, thanks. I just had a look at Calgars entry and his does say ''...while he is on the table...'' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2903906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 My question concerns his Chapter Tactics rule that replaces Combat Tactics.If he dies during the battle, do my units revert back to Combat Tactics or does Chapter Tactics replace it for the entire battle? Thanks. Calgar : "Whilst Calgar is on the table, all units with the Combat Tactics"Kantor : "If you include Pedro Kantor then all units in your army exchange the Combat Tactics special rule for the" Lysander : "If you include Lysander then all units in your army exchange the combat tactics special rule for" Shrike : "If you include Kayvaan Shrike then all units in your army exchange the Combat Tactics special rule for" Hestan : "If you include He'stan then all units in your army lose the Combat Tactics special rule. Instead" Khan : "If you include Kor'sarro Khan then all units in your army exchange the Combat Tactics special rule for" Only Clagar is written "whilst on the table", all the others are written "if you include", so Calgar's is the only rule you'd lose on losing the model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2903916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 If not, there might be some interesting consequences. "Hah! My Vindicare popped Kantor and my Dreadknights took out your Tacticals. You have no scoring units!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2903949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Calgar does not have a "Chapter Tactics". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Calgar does not have a "Chapter Tactics". He does, however, have a special rule which is dependant on the Chapter Combat Tactics special rule to function. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Note that Calgar's God of War relies on "Combat tactics", not "Chapter tactics". :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Good catch. Thanks, I did miss type. However, every special characters Chapter Tactics replaces the armies Combat Tactics so it ends up being the same thing, yes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The "Chapter Tactics" of the special characters take the Combat Tactics of the units and turn it into something else. The reason why none of the Ultramarines Special characters has such a "Chapter Tactics" rule is simply because the default Combat Tactics are already supposed to represent the Ultramarines Chapter. Calgar has a special rule titeled "God of War", which improves the effect of the Combat Tactics. However, the rule is not called "Chapter Tactics", and does not replace the default Combat Tactics. Edit: Perhaps this was a bit redundant, now that the point had already been clarified... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Its okay Legatus, we like redundancy and pedanticism in the +OR+ ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Yeah Legatus, we like redundancy and pedanticism in the +Official Rules+ section of the Bolter & Chainsword forums. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Its okay Legatus, we like redundancy and pedanticism in the +OR+ ;) Yeah Legatus, we like redundancy and pedanticism in the +Official Rules+ section of the Bolter & Chainsword forums. :P If you didn't, I'd not be welcome. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Yeah Legatus, we like redundancy and pedanticism in the +Official Rules+ section of the Bolter & Chainsword forums. ;) That made me laugh. Nice little catch. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240548-chapter-tactics/#findComment-2904830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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