Hyaenidae Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Oh my :) God, if I hear the name 'Draigo' one more time... *mumbled threats of throwing Mat Ward to a pack of rabid Pomeranians* Back on topic, Angron is probably my favorite Daemon Primarch, for only two reasons: 1. He still loves to run out into the Imperium every chance he gets to set a sector or two on fire. 2. http://images.wikia.com/warhammer40k/images/6/6a/Daemon_Prince_Angron_by_Alex_Boyd.jpg That is all. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm inclined towards none of them, actually. Lorgar would normally be my favorite, but he hasn't really done anything as a daemon primarch, so I'm dissapointed by that. The only two who have done anything is Angron and Magnus. While Magnus's rage at the Space Wolves is understandable, he simply doesn't know how to get the job done (relies too heavily on plots, when sometimes, you just need to kick down the front door) and thus is also rather lacklustre. Angron has never appealed to me, but that's purely a matter of personal taste and is really just IMHO (which isn't to say the rest of it isn't IMHO :) ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravean Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Fulgrim, Hands down Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saa Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 >> Saa, the way you always sign off makes me cringe, because 'saa' is basically Japanese for 'Or something like that'. haha.....well it's actually my real name......short for Sarazin (my mother was a hippie lol) Saa ...or something like that ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 While Magnus's rage at the Space Wolves is understandable, he simply doesn't know how to get the job done (relies too heavily on plots, when sometimes, you just need to kick down the front door) and thus is also rather lacklustre. The problem is Magnus lacks men and the Fang is one of the greatest Fortresses in the Imperium with a few exception of some of the other famous places like Terra and Cadia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 >> Saa, the way you always sign off makes me cringe, because 'saa' is basically Japanese for 'Or something like that'. haha.....well it's actually my real name......short for Sarazin (my mother was a hippie lol) Saa ...or something like that ;) Ouch. Although Sazarin sounds kinda cool. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the emperor is scottish Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Oh my <_< God, if I hear the name 'Draigo' one more time... *mumbled threats of throwing Mat Ward to a pack of rabid Pomeranians* Back on topic, Angron is probably my favorite Daemon Primarch, for only two reasons: 1. He still loves to run out into the Imperium every chance he gets to set a sector or two on fire. 2. http://images.wikia.com/warhammer40k/images/6/6a/Daemon_Prince_Angron_by_Alex_Boyd.jpg That is all. ;) I prefer how angron looked as a 'mortal' I think the daemon images of him have to much going on. The thing I loved about Pre heresy world eaters (and death guard) was how unadorned they were. Nothing fancy just the bare minimum. He seems a little to ostentatious. Still love the big lug don't get me wrong. Just a shame doombreed could slap him about which makes me think of doombreed is khrones chosen then why doesn't he do anything? He took part in the first war of armaggedon but then what? I've been trying to knuckle down and wright my own little piece of fluff concerning the daemon primarchs calling together a council. I can see that being a total civil meeting. You think any of then would be happy to see one another? Oh and one last thing I had a convo with a friend ago and he had said Magnus didn't become a daemon prince but one of the first changer of ways. Has anyone else heard this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Actually, it's a key point in Mortarions background, and the entire reason Typhus is doing what he does, that Mortarion doesn't do anything. He just sits around on new Barbarus, making plagues, and that's about it. In Flight of the Eisenstein, First Captain Typhon already has plans to (eventually) cut loose from Mortarion and become a "herald of greater powers". So it doesn't have to be tied to Mortarion doing nothing. Mortarion can always have a change of heart, so to speak, at some point between the Heresy and the present day, anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 are there even any pictures of daemon prince Mortartion, I know there is one of Fulgrim, Angron (havent seen one of magnus but he looks daemony anyway) Mortarion on the other hand is no where to be seen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I've seen one in the Age of the Emperor rules on Tempus Fugitive- can't remember if that's a fan one or not. The Lexicanum page has one as well: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortarion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 ^^ There he is in Primarch form, not sure if he would look like a blob or a lanky skelington in DP form. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 While Magnus's rage at the Space Wolves is understandable, he simply doesn't know how to get the job done (relies too heavily on plots, when sometimes, you just need to kick down the front door) and thus is also rather lacklustre. The problem is Magnus lacks men and the Fang is one of the greatest Fortresses in the Imperium with a few exception of some of the other famous places like Terra and Cadia. Yes, but he's a Daemon Primarch. He can get manpower pretty quick if he wants it - he can probably even get Abbaddon to work with him if he can open a Warp-tear straight to Fenris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 ^^ There he is in Primarch form, not sure if he would look like a blob or a lanky skelington in DP form. Scroll down, and you'll see a winged DP Mortarion pic (and the old Epic mini). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 http://images.wikia.com/warhammer40k/images/6/6a/Daemon_Prince_Angron_by_Alex_Boyd.jpg Just look at that face. How can you not love it? :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2907666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Actually, it's a key point in Mortarions background, and the entire reason Typhus is doing what he does, that Mortarion doesn't do anything. He just sits around on new Barbarus, making plagues, and that's about it. In Flight of the Eisenstein, First Captain Typhon already has plans to (eventually) cut loose from Mortarion and become a "herald of greater powers". So it doesn't have to be tied to Mortarion doing nothing. Mortarion can always have a change of heart, so to speak, at some point between the Heresy and the present day, anyway. Except that it's outright stated in two sources (The Death Guard IA and the Heroes and Villains article on Typhus) that he hasn't. We have anecdotal, tenuous evidence for your argument, and two outright statements for mine... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2908208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Those are fairly old sources though- it seems clear from the Grey Knights codex that GW has rethought the "Mortarion has never left New Barbarus" idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2908375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Those are fairly old sources though- it seems clear from the Grey Knights codex that GW has rethought the "Mortarion has never left New Barbarus" idea. yes... but the fluff in that book is soooooooooooo bad that we do not mention it and instead stick with the better (and so correct) fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2908387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 "better" doesn't necessarily mean "correct"- in the context of GW. There's lots of retcons certain people think are "worse"- but due to being retcons, they're closer to "correct"- new books will use them. Dark Heresy: Daemon Hunter, for example, uses quite a lot from the GK codex. Such as the disappearance and reappearance of Titan. I think of it as- Typhon had the plan to cut loose from the rest of the Death Guard as early as Flight of the Eisenstein (as that book says) but didn't actually do so till after the heresy, using "Mortarion won't get out and do anything" as an excuse. And Mortarion rarely left his world- but has made occasional forays during Nurgle daemonic incursions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2908396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 "better" doesn't necessarily mean "correct"- in the context of GW. There's lots of retcons certain people think are "worse"- but due to being retcons, they're closer to "correct"- new books will use them. Dark Heresy: Daemon Hunter, for example, uses quite a lot from the GK codex. Such as the disappearance and reappearance of Titan. I think of it as- Typhon had the plan to cut loose from the rest of the Death Guard as early as Flight of the Eisenstein (as that book says) but didn't actually do so till after the heresy, using "Mortarion won't get out and do anything" as an excuse. And Mortarion rarely left his world- but has made occasional forays during Nurgle daemonic incursions. This isn't new BTW... It has been Typhon who took the Death Guard to Nurgle and not Mortarion... That's one of the reasons that Mortarion is so grumpy... Like Magnus he didn't really want to serve his patron. Also I can't believe you tried to explain that better doesn't equal correct. Stuff like the disappearance of Titan isn't a problem... The fact that Dark Heresy uses something is neither here nor there... although I like a lot of the stuff FFG have done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2908496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Just ignore the GK codex fluff altogether. We have much better fluff other places if you know where to look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2908511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Mistakes are correct a long as they come to light! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2909134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the emperor is scottish Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 having just read the first heretic i now revise my spot for lordgar. I cant have him as any of my top primarchs. Altough he looks badass I cant stand how he is. His need for something to follow is weak bordering on the pathetic. Argel Tal should have let the custode blow his hearts out his spineless back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2913439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 http://images.wikia.com/warhammer40k/images/6/6a/Daemon_Prince_Angron_by_Alex_Boyd.jpg Just look at that face. How can you not love it? :D Indeed! Since "my" primarchs aren't daemon-primarchs (Alpharius-Omegon) I'd have to go with mr. Angron! He is a cutie! Blood for the blood god my friends! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2913473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Commander Danek Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Draigo is a fluff abomination ^^ This a thousand times over. I'd say talking the deamon primarchs it'd be for me in this order; - Angron I mean he was Spartacus, and even after ascension as already pointed out he's rampaged through the galaxy. His hunger for war is insatiable. - Peturabo I almost feel like he personifies "less is more". Perhaps it's just my mind, but I picture him deep in Medrengard building. Like a deranged spider at the core of industrialization gone amuck, always building. Always intense. The bastard child of hate, paranoia and creativity. Creating. Creating to ultimately uncreate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2913478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 having just read the first heretic i now revise my spot for lordgar. I cant have him as any of my top primarchs. Altough he looks badass I cant stand how he is. His need for something to follow is weak bordering on the pathetic. Argel Tal should have let the custode blow his hearts out his spineless back. Read Aurelian, I think you'll reevaluate your perception of Lorgar afterwards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/240609-daemon-primarchs/page/2/#findComment-2913534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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