MalachiOfRuss Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 My apologies if this has been asked before (I tried searching but didn't see anything). How do you guys play the Leaders of the Pack "uniqueness" rule when it comes to Rune Priests and special characters? Here's the rule I'm referencing To represent this, no two characters may bear the same saga, nor may they bear the same psychic powers or wargear combination. First, the rule about no duplicate Sagas. Does this mean that Logan Grimnar, Njal Stormcaller, and Bjorn can never be in an army list together since they all have Saga of Majesty? Or is the fact that they are named good enough? I would assume that I can't take one of them and a generic HQ that also has Saga of Majesty. Also, I'm wondering about the "same psychic powers or wargear combination" portion when it comes to Rune Priests. If I field 2 Rune Priests and both have a Chooser but have different Psychic Powers does that satisfy the rule? Or do I need to have different psychic powers and different wargear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241064-leaders-of-the-pack-uniqueness-rule/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I thought the FAQ clarified that special characters don't count. So you can have Njal and Logan in the same list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241064-leaders-of-the-pack-uniqueness-rule/#findComment-2911223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I thought the FAQ clarified that special characters don't count. So you can have Njal and Logan in the same list. I don't think that even required a FAQ; the basic rules in the Codex say that Special Characters/Unique Characters do not count for the "no duplication of Sagas" rule. I'd give a page reference, but I'm at work (can't you tell?). Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241064-leaders-of-the-pack-uniqueness-rule/#findComment-2911225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I'd give a page reference, but I'm at work (can't you tell?). Pg.64, first column, second paragraph. As for the second question, the FAQ states : Q. Can you clarify how The Leaders of the Pack works exactly? (p81)A. The rules for selecting Sagas are detailed on page 64. As for wargear, no two HQ characters, including Special Characters, may have the exact same wargear and Weapons, even if they are different HQ units. Note that Fenrisian Wolves bought as wargear are included in this check, so if you had two otherwise identical Wolf Guard Battle Leaders, save that one has one Fenrisian Wolf and the other has two, then you are technically obeying this rule just fine. For the record, the intent of the rule is that you should field characterful and diverse heroes in your army, not identical clones with but an extra melta bomb to set them apart. Though we cannot really enforce players to embrace this attitude, the Codex does try to encourage it wherever possible. Q. Can you clarify how The Leaders of the Pack works with regards to psychic powers? (p81) A. No number of Rune Priests may share the exact same two psychic powers. For example, a Rune Priest may choose to take Living Lightning and Thunderclap. A second Rune Priest may then choose to take Living Lighting and Jaws of the World Wolf, as he will not have the same two psychic powers as the first Rune Priest. Note that the restriction on weapons and wargear still applies, so you have to have each Rune Priest with a unique wargear selection. Also note that Njal Stormcaller knows all seven powers rather than just two, so no other Rune Priest can end up having the same powers. Thus it is permitted to take Njal Stormcaller alongside other Rune Priests. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241064-leaders-of-the-pack-uniqueness-rule/#findComment-2911232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 How do you guys play the Leaders of the Pack "uniqueness" rule when it comes to Rune Priests and special characters? Also, I'm wondering about the "same psychic powers or wargear combination" portion when it comes to Rune Priests. If I field 2 Rune Priests and both have a Chooser but have different Psychic Powers does that satisfy the rule? Or do I need to have different psychic powers and different wargear? I. None of your custom HQs can have "identical" wargear II. None of your custom HQs can have "identical" sagas III. None of your custom HQs can have "identical" psychic powers All 3 of those tests must be satisfied for the "uniqueness" rule If you give 2 custom HQs the exact same weapons/armor etc. but only upgrade one with a WTT you have technically satisfied the rule If you have no points for different wargear your last option is to swap out for a free bolter (commonly used on RPs) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241064-leaders-of-the-pack-uniqueness-rule/#findComment-2911291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Thanks everyone. I see that the FAQ answered my question. I'll have to keep this in mind when building my lists as Army Builder's validations aren't completely correct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241064-leaders-of-the-pack-uniqueness-rule/#findComment-2911329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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