Revelation Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 'I raise the fist that struck men down, And salute the battle won. My enemy's blood has baptized me. In death's heart I proved myself, But now the fire must cool. The carrion crows feast, And the tally of the dead begins. I have seen many fall today. But even as they die, I know That our blood too is welcome. War cares not from whence the blood flows.' Maybe the World Eaters aren't just a bunch of berserkers, maybe there is more to them than meets the eyes, just like the Space Wolves. 'War cares not from whence the blood flows' Graham McNeill I salute you, for those words are so true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I also thought it was a great touch. And shows how seamlessly they will transform into Khornate worship. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2912830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Where's that from? The Outcast Dead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2912882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturnn Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I also thought it was a great touch. And shows how seamlessly they will transform into Khornate worship. True. Imo they were just butchers. Always butchers. Nothing to compare with Space Wolves and their primarch. SW > WA, Leman Russa >>>> Angron. thats all about it. World Eaters were so blind in killing that it was easy for Warmaster to manipulate them and throw them into the arms of Khorne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2912962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazabi24 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I also thought it was a great touch. And shows how seamlessly they will transform into Khornate worship. True. Imo they were just butchers. Always butchers. Nothing to compare with Space Wolves and their primarch. SW > WA, Leman Russa >>>> Angron. thats all about it. World Eaters were so blind in killing that it was easy for Warmaster to manipulate them and throw them into the arms of Khorne. Imo they were just dogs. Always manipulated dogs. Nothing to compare with World Eaters and their primarch. WA > SW, Angron >>>> Leman Russ. Thats all about it. Space Wolves were so blind in killing that it was easy for Warmaster to manipulate them and make them attack Prospero. c what I did thar? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturnn Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Nothing special, just turned my own words. Impressive and very creative Dude! Maybe dogs, but loyal to the end when ,,better", ,,brighter" turned their backs form Emperor. In HH all was about loyalty and honour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Huh...? At what point did the OP state the World Eaters were 'better' than the Space Wolves or vice versa? :D He just said the WE might not be one dimensional berserkers, in much the same way the Space Wolves are not simply space vikings. Let's not start another blasted 'my favourite army of toy soldiers is better than your favourite' argument. Personally, I approve of anything that gives the pre-heresy World Eaters more personality. It's been a long time coming! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'm respecting the World Eaters more and more as the Heresy progresses. The Loyalist World Eaters are the strongest willed of many Astartes. Sure they turned, but any Primarch who turned will take their Legion with them. I know this won't be popular but I would love the background for the DA to be the reverse of this; Johnson turned and Luther and the loyalists in his Legion were the ones to defeat him. Just my own preference though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 bluh.. it doesnt rhyme.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturnn Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Yeah, i would like to get some new point of view about WA and I don't say that all of them were mad. Varon from Garro's squad was the best example of loyality to Emperor over loyality to primarch but...all i want to say is that in my opinnion whole Legion was ,,corrupted" by Angron since he joined it. I mean...he was psycho and butcher and he wanted to make whole legion like him. It was bad move by Emperor to let live such creature like Angron. They were noble warriors, for sure, but after Angorn join them they just become what they are now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I know this won't be popular but I would love the background for the DA to be the reverse of this; Johnson turned and Luther and the loyalists in his Legion were the ones to defeat him. Just my own preference though. :D You just dropped immeasurably in my eyes Idaho. (Not a joke) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I know this won't be popular but I would love the background for the DA to be the reverse of this; Johnson turned and Luther and the loyalists in his Legion were the ones to defeat him. Just my own preference though. I think, going by Age of Darkness, they've moved away from the "Johnson was an opportunist" hints. On the other side of the coin, Fallen Angels seems to suggest that the Luther had good reasons for some of his actions. While reversing it completely might be going too far, a more nuanced picture than "Luthor turned to Chaos, because he was jealous" could be interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Yeah, i would like to get some new point of view about WA and I don't say that all of them were mad. Varon from Garro's squad was the best example of loyality to Emperor over loyality to primarch but...all i want to say is that in my opinnion whole Legion was ,,corrupted" by Angron since he joined it. I mean...he was psycho and butcher and he wanted to make whole legion like him. It was bad move by Emperor to let live such creature like Angron. They were noble warriors, for sure, but after Angorn join them they just become what they are now. So it was a bad move by the Emperor to not kill his son who he created to help him conquer the galaxy for mankind? Yeah, real bad move letting someone who went on to conquer tons of planets for mankind live. Also, Angron wasn't as stupid as people think, his tactic was slaughtering the enemy and he did that quite well, using his Legion very effectively. He was certainly smarter than any of us can ever be, I mean, he was a super-super-human. The Emperor's bad move was taking Angron away from his warriors then making him watch them die. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturnn Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 There is a lot of examples where WA killed enemy to the last man,even innocent. And as i remember, only thing kept Angorn's under Horus controll was letting him just killing so yeah dude, he was sooooooooooooooooooo smaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I know this won't be popular but I would love the background for the DA to be the reverse of this; Johnson turned and Luther and the loyalists in his Legion were the ones to defeat him. Just my own preference though. I think, going by Age of Darkness, they've moved away from the "Johnson was an opportunist" hints. On the other side of the coin, Fallen Angels seems to suggest that the Luther had good reasons for some of his actions. While reversing it completely might be going too far, a more nuanced picture than "Luthor turned to Chaos, because he was jealous" could be interesting. Oh I know, I was just spit balling and being a bit tongue in cheek with the way everything in the Heresy series is not as it seems to the point of a conspiracy in every Legion! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 While reversing it completely might be going too far, a more nuanced picture than "Luthor turned to Chaos, because he was jealous" could be interesting. Thats not the besy way to phrase it, I think it'd be better to say "Chaos was able to turn Luther using his jealousy as its way in", none of which addresses his motives (the road to hell, best of intentions and all that). Which is OT anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I might have to give Outcast Dead another, more thorough read, but as far as I know they were jailed for...what? Displaying the Aquila on their armor? And was it ever even stated that the Emperor personally handed down their sentence himself? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2913725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sandbot Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 But seriously, is this chant from Outcast Dead? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2914285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 But seriously, is this chant from Outcast Dead? I want to know that too where this chant comes from :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2914294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Tezdal Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yeah, i would like to get some new point of view about WA and I don't say that all of them were mad. Varon from Garro's squad was the best example of loyality to Emperor over loyality to primarch but...all i want to say is that in my opinnion whole Legion was ,,corrupted" by Angron since he joined it. I mean...he was psycho and butcher and he wanted to make whole legion like him. It was bad move by Emperor to let live such creature like Angron. They were noble warriors, for sure, but after Angorn join them they just become what they are now. The Emperor turned his back on Angron by kidnapping him and not letting him die with his gladiators. Angron owed the Emperor nothing, he was betrayed from the first. Also, what is WA, the World Ate'rs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2914300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Yes the chant is from the out cast dead. I liked the fact that the WE are shown as warriors not super human butcher's in the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2914554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Yeah, i would like to get some new point of view about WA and I don't say that all of them were mad. Varon from Garro's squad was the best example of loyality to Emperor over loyality to primarch but...all i want to say is that in my opinnion whole Legion was ,,corrupted" by Angron since he joined it. I mean...he was psycho and butcher and he wanted to make whole legion like him. It was bad move by Emperor to let live such creature like Angron. They were noble warriors, for sure, but after Angorn join them they just become what they are now. The Emperor turned his back on Angron by kidnapping him and not letting him die with his gladiators. Angron owed the Emperor nothing, he was betrayed from the first. Also, what is WA, the World Ate'rs? That's one way of looking at it. Another way is Angron was caught up in pride and honour and blinded to the greater good of humanity or common sense. Given most IA articles are now obsolete as historically inaccurate intepretations of those events, I'd imagine the real issues was one a little more grey too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2914640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Yes the chant is from the out cast dead. I liked the fact that the WE are shown as warriors not super human butcher's in the book. Allright, another reason for me to finish this book ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241196-world-eaters-war-chant/#findComment-2914995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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