Question for my Brothers

[Schertenleib]

Going to be playing a mech heavy game (2000 pts) over the weekend and I was wondering. Do you ever take the additional bolter on your vehicles?

[Chef Wulfen]

i will be on my pred.

[dswanick]

If I have the spare points, I'll throw PMSBs on my Rhinos.

[Arez]

If I have the spare points, I'll throw PMSBs on my Rhinos.

Ditto.

 

They're pretty good especially against horde armies.

[Valerian]

An extra Storm Bolter on a Rhino isn't really going to do anything for you; it's not worth the investment. PMSBs are useful on vehicles that have other, better, weapons that you want to preserve. In effect, they act as cannon fodder to absorb a 'weapon destroyed' damage result, to keep a better weapon firing longer. You put a PMSB on a tank for the exact same reason that you might put an un-upgraded 18 point Wolf Guard with your Long Fangs.

 

Valerian

[Grey Mage]

But Valerian, your opponent chooses the weapon destroyed results effect.... not you. So theyll just take the big gun anyways.

[Valerian]

But Valerian, your opponent chooses the weapon destroyed results effect.... not you. So theyll just take the big gun anyways.

 

Oh damn; did the owning player choose during 4th Edition? That was when I modeled a PMSB on a Predator, and I can't imagine I would have done that otherwise.

 

Disregard my comment then.

 

V

[Tsavong Lah]

I only ever spend extra points on transport vehicles when I'm building Apocalypse lists, in which case everything gets upgraded. ;)

[Simo429]

The only reason to take the additional bolter for me is for the extra 'wound' by that I mean you can take more immobolised and weapon destroyed results before getting wrecked.

[Ryzouken]

Pintle mount storm bolter effectively doubles a Rhino's firepower. Whether this is worthwhile to you depends on your preferences.

 

*I* prefer to keep my rolling coffins as cheap as possible to afford more guys in grey with guns. My 1500 point list runs 3-4 Rhino's, which if kitted with Pintle Storm Bolters would be 30-40 points. Two more Grey Hunters, or an extra Long Fang with a missile launcher.

 

Rhino's: roll forward, pop smoke, produce cover saves in turns 3+.

 

On other tanks... well... I'd have to take other tanks first! My triple Land Raider list (@1500 points) doesn't use them...

[Blacksad]

on a land raider crusader: yes. on a Whirlwind: perhaps, on a Vindicator: perhaps. others: most likely no.

[Grey Mage]

If Im taking anything on a whirlwind, at all, its going to be an HK missile. Normally I hate the things... cant hit the broadside of a barn with them.... but the threat of a solid missile shot helps deter some of the fast moving enemies like Piranhas and Landspeeders.

[red_starrise]

For some reason I can never hit a thing w/ storm bolters on either dreads or tanks but that doesn't stop me from taking them when the points warrant.

 

For example in my vanilla list my heavy bolter razorback I put a storm bolter on for the sole purpose of giving me 5 shots from one tank to help protect my honour guard. I've toyed w/ taking an extra on vindicators for when the d-cannon gets taken out, but I never have the extra points to spare honestly. But on the razorbacks it's definitely worth it since it's a 'defensive weapon' & it turns a razorback w/ a weapon destroyed result into a rhino rather than just a battering ram.

 

I've honestly never taken hunter-killers as they're too expensive for a weapon that w/ the way I tend to roll, will miss so it's a worthless investment for me lol. I've thought about it on my iron clad dread but never been able to find the points for that either lol.