Redfinger Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Fun dude to paint, this was done up for a local player in my area, he did the assembly/conversion, I did the painting. Not the cleanest assembly/conversion, but I think it looks good. This paint was particularly difficult because I was trying a new technique for black and gold, trying to blend a little color into the black as a highlight, with out making it look like a deeper shade of the highlight color...also gold has always been a challenge for me, but I think the burnished look really cam through well on this. What are your thoughts? Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Excedis Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 wow...what exactly did you do for the black? it looks like a matte black instead of your normal straight or flat black Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2919983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGABOND Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I recently did an Abaddon conversion for my Luna Wolves using the Chaos Lord kit, I'm not sure on the paint job it'self as it does look more grey than black and it looks as if the Gold could do with a light wash of Devlan Mud. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2920209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasman Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I agree the colors (except for Abaddon's face which is very well done) are a bit flat to my opinion. Just a suggestion: what about a light wash of Badab Black on the grey areas and of Gryphone Sepia on the gold ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2920221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Well the balck is supposed to look flat, I had pushed the highlights to a purple-ish tone because I am sick of the hardlined gray highlights that are so common on black....I think there is just a better way to do it, and I am trying to find it. As far as the gold goes, I could see the benifit of a sepia wash, but the mud would mute the color of the gold even more, I was trying to go for a diry, burnished gold look. Unfortunetly soome of the effect of the paint is lost in the photo's, as soon as the storm passes here I can try and take some better photos once the light is better. Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2920512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 very nice but why is his face blue? :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2920920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGABOND Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Can you give us a tutorial on the face, I think it look's great dude. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2921314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 an idea for gold you may like (i use it on my knights, will have to post one up for you to see): base dwarf bronze wash devlan mud layer of shining gold then wash with gryphonne sephia. Gives a beautiful burnished gold look that i think would work really well. and fantastic with the black. how and what did you mix it with?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2928646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 an idea for gold you may like (i use it on my knights, will have to post one up for you to see): base dwarf bronze wash devlan mud layer of shining gold then wash with gryphonne sephia. Gives a beautiful burnished gold look that i think would work really well. and fantastic with the black. how and what did you mix it with?? Thanks for that recipe...the black was done this way; basecoat-Vallejo Black Grey Wash x 2 Black HIghlght- Vallejo Oxford Blue HIghlight - Vallejo Oxford Blue + Vallejo Skin Tone. That was it. Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2929046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha PTP Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I'm not a big fan of the blue skin and the gold needs some work. You should build up gold to very thin highlights of Mythril Silver to have a lot of contrast and really make the model pop. If you look at some real gold, it doesn't stay a flat color like yours does. It looks like your metals in general are very flat and one dimensional. I don't know if it is intentional or not, but metals should have a bit of contrast; especially gold. I love the fact that you painted the black of the model correctly even though it could probably use a highlight or two. Throw some static grass onto the base to provide a little bit more color. Your model is very dark without it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2929080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I'm not a big fan of the blue skin and the gold needs some work. You should build up gold to very thin highlights of Mythril Silver to have a lot of contrast and really make the model pop. If you look at some real gold, it doesn't stay a flat color like yours does. It looks like your metals in general are very flat and one dimensional. I don't know if it is intentional or not, but metals should have a bit of contrast; especially gold. I love the fact that you painted the black of the model correctly even though it could probably use a highlight or two. Throw some static grass onto the base to provide a little bit more color. Your model is very dark without it. I was actually really pleased with how the gold turned out, and so was the client. Unfortunately some of the effect has been lost in the photos, but if you look at the first picture I posted, the left shoulder, that is not a reflection, that is the gold changing from one color to another through blending. If you look at the model from another angle; You can see the transition a little better. Point taken as well about the static grass, but I was going for a rather dark and desolate look for this mini so I was trying to avoid happy colors. Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2929100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha PTP Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I can't really give the best criticizim about the metals without holding the model in my own hands. It just looks like flat gold that is being reflected because of the light you used to light up your camera station. There are a lot of variations of dead static grass. Some are lighter than others, but here is an example as to what your base would look like with the static grass that I feel is the most fitting: http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh230/HollowJester/HighPaladinVilmonII-1.png I painted this model years ago and the photos are crap, but you get the point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2929106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 This is a great model, but it also serves as a reminder that we desperately need a new Abaddon model badly, preferably one that looks like this! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2929677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryJohnny Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I really like the paint job on this. In particular the way you did the black for his armor & the face. Would you be so kind as to step us through the process used on the face? I've been seeing a lot of your minis on here recently & have to say I really like your work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2930027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 I really like the paint job on this. In particular the way you did the black for his armor & the face. Would you be so kind as to step us through the process used on the face? I've been seeing a lot of your minis on here recently & have to say I really like your work. Thanks for the feedback, I apreciate it. As far as the face goes I used the same method on this face as I did on my Lysander face; It is suprisginly easy and just takes a little patience. Basically I use a foundation color, and a highlight color and some GW wash. In the case of this model I basecoated the model in Vallejo Blue Gray. Then the wash was Azureman Blue and Black. The highlight was Vallejo Sky Gray mixed with a touch of Blue Gray, about a 4:1 ratio. Now the trick to making it look good is to use the wash like you would if you were wet blending, dont just glob and blob, that will look thick and unrealistic. It takes a little practice to learn to use the washes like paints, but in the end I think the effect look very natual. Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241675-abaddon-the-despoiler/#findComment-2930186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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