RebG Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 A year or so ago I never would have thought this an issue but, thanks to the internet, my mind now works in RAW vs RAI. Kinda sad times. So I was daydreaming away at work today (we weren't so busy) and thought about potentially taking my Vindicare Assassin out for a game sometime soon. One of our group plays Orks and I thought it'd be great to destroy his toy that protects half his army - the Ork Kustom Force Field. So, here's my issue: Shield-breaker destroys wargear which provides invun saves as you all know. The KFF though grants 5+ or 6+ cover saves for the models in proximity. Fluff-wise it makes sense that the Assassin shoots the generator/backpack/force bubble/gubbinz and it's destroyed by the special ammo. Rule wise I guess someone will point out that cover saves and invulnerable saves are different things, especially when confronted with losing an army protecting toy. So, am I being silly as I've already answered my own question? Or do any of you folk play it differently? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241761-shield-breaker-vs-ork-kff/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Cover =/= Invulnerable, so the Shield Breaker will not affect the KFF. However, your Vindicare can target the Ork carrying the KFF and kill him, even if he's in a unit. Then the KFF goes down, if he fails the cover save <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241761-shield-breaker-vs-ork-kff/#findComment-2921182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 What Wyck said. A cover save is not an invulnerable save; the wargear granting KFF is granting a cover save, cut and dry. The Vindicare can shoot the Mek in the face, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241761-shield-breaker-vs-ork-kff/#findComment-2921217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Not if the Mek is riding in a pimped out battlewagon . G :wallbash: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241761-shield-breaker-vs-ork-kff/#findComment-2921241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebG Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Thanks. As I suspected to be honest gent's. A day at work with no codex access while pondering it made me think there might be a way round it but you've all confirmed my initial thoughts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241761-shield-breaker-vs-ork-kff/#findComment-2921255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Not if the Mek is riding in a pimped out battlewagon . Then the Vindicare uses the Turbo Penetrator and wrecks the Battlewagon- if it fails its cover save. :mellow: Then on the next turn the Vindicare tests his shot against the Mek's cover save ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241761-shield-breaker-vs-ork-kff/#findComment-2921303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 There's always a thing that counters a thing that can be countered by some set of other things. That's the way of the game. :cuss Original question answered; nj team. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/241761-shield-breaker-vs-ork-kff/#findComment-2921839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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