sponsra Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I think this is fairly new... http://www.blacklibrary.com/Horus-Heresy/d...rance-lost.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not New New just different the old blurb made the raven guard seem weak and nerd rage burned hot and heavy for a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Pretty interesting I may get this one now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not New New just different the old blurb made the raven guard seem weak and nerd rage burned hot and heavy for a while. yeah, yeah I know the presentation text has been changed, I was refering to the extract pdf.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not New New just different the old blurb made the raven guard seem weak and nerd rage burned hot and heavy for a while. Well they are weak after Istvaan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 well, lets have a debate about that. Then we can talk about Sanguinius haircolor and wether Limited edition novellas are a good thing or not... :) In the meantime I would like to know what you thought about the extract from Deliverance lost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikt208 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I have to admit, I was skeptical when I heard Gav Thorpe was doing it. Despite Angels of Darkness I am a big fan of his stuff. However, after reading this extract and a few other shorter ones, and a glowing review I am actually looking forward to it now. Horus Heresy seems to bring out the best in all the authors. They know they have to step up a notch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 well, lets have a debate about that. Then we can talk about Sanguinius haircolor and wether Limited edition novellas are a good thing or not... ;) In the meantime I would like to know what you thought about the extract from Deliverance lost. 5,000 Marines in the current timeline of 40K? Impressive amount of firepower. 5,000 Marines in the Heresy timeline? Drop in the bucket -- especially considering that those 5,000 are the survivors of the 80,000 who made planetfall at Isstvan V (plus some Alpha Legionnaires). So yes, the Raven Guard are quite weak right now. As for the extract, I liked it even as short as it is. We get a quick insight into Corax's character (generally impatient, willing to break rules, close to his brothers), the timing of the novel is well illustrated (straight run through from Raven's Flight, and I'm pretty sure Dorn is indisposed due to the closing events of The Outcast Dead), and I just want to jump in front of the bull here and state unequivocably that "Alpharius" isn't actually "Alpharius." That's more shennastigating on the part of the Alpha Legion, I'm sure, since it would be hard to believe that a Primarch could pass as a common Astartes amongst other Astartes -- and in the presence of another Primarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Thats the thing, we do not know, and will not know until we have read the book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unintentional Batman Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Thats the thing, we do not know, and will not know until we have read the book And if we are lucky, we don't know even after we have read the book. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Oops missed that. Interesting this should be one of the better books in the timeline. I should have said the rage was about the RG being "saved" by the AL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xa0s Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I wonder if it's gonna be a limited edition novella. ;) Joking aside, Alpharius... I'm questioning if that was a good judgement call considering primarchs are able to recognize other primarchs. In that case, if that is true, the Alpharius must have done a very good job evading Corax, if at all (or/and Dorn, for that matter). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc wazzahamma Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I just want to jump in front of the bull here and state unequivocably that "Alpharius" isn't actually "Alpharius." That's more shennastigating on the part of the Alpha Legion, I'm sure, since it would be hard to believe that a Primarch could pass as a common Astartes amongst other Astartes -- and in the presence of another Primarch. I think you're right. The text describes Alpharius' "augmented eyes", and that should be a phrase reserved for astartes, not primarchs, who are simply born with super duper eyeballs, not enhanced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2928915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I wonder if it's gonna be a limited edition novella. :lol: Joking aside, Alpharius... I'm questioning if that was a good judgement call considering primarchs are able to recognize other primarchs. In that case, if that is true, the Alpharius must have done a very good job evading Corax, if at all (or/and Dorn, for that matter). It's not Alpharius. It's a Alpha Legionare who has infiltrated the Raven Guard. It's just that to anybody outside the legion they use the codesign Alpharius ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2929848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xa0s Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 It's not Alpharius. It's a Alpha Legionare who has infiltrated the Raven Guard. It's just that to anybody outside the legion they use the codesign Alpharius :D That may be true since we all don't know who truly is Alpharius or Omegon, for that matter. We'll see by the time the book comes out. I'm debating on whether to get that poster since I really like that artist, Neil Roberts if I'm not mistaken. Or was that Fowler? I keep mixing those two up often. I'm fairly certain it's Neil Roberts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2930081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Yes it´s Neil Roberts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2930220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconis Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Having read the book, but not wanting to give too much away- yes, the RG infiltrator is called Alpharius but he's not the primarch. He says he can't remember his original name... The actual Alpharius and Omegon are in the book too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242235-deliverence-lost-extract/#findComment-2931454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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