crocker Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hey Brothers! TheArmyPainter.com is a website offering some wargaming products for painting and showing you how to "dip" your mini's into different tones for shading and just wants to get a veiw on buying these products and if anyone has had any experience with them? Cheers, Chris Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Lets send this over to the Painting section of the board where it is more likely to get responses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2928953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocker Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thanks for that, pretty new to this forum stuff. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutlassCam Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Haven't seen the site myself, but whilst I'm no expert, I wouldn't recommend 'dipping', you're much better off doing it with a brush. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Haven't seen the site myself, but whilst I'm no expert, I wouldn't recommend 'dipping', you're much better off doing it with a brush. An opinion borne from ignorance..... No technique is better or worse than another, they simply produce different results. Dipping is an awesome way to achieve a certain look for your army....but you have to remember that it is merely a tool and not a "magic solution" for painting. Here are some examples of a few models I have dipped; Pre-Dip Post-Dip Post-Clean Up And a Grey Knight I did It really irks me when people start classifying one paint style as better than another, or saying that one in bad and one is good.....it shows ignorance in how painting actually works, all the various techniques produce different effects, now based on the type of look you are going for one style or technique might better more applicable than another..... So as far as dipping goes, it is a great way to achieve a quick finished look. I would suggest the mid-tone, and I would also spend a great deal of time planning out your paint scheme so that the colors you pick are not too dark once the dip has been applied. Also, set your self up for some assembly line work and have all your tools ready to go. As far as the Army Painter Primers, I really like them, I just recently started using them, I still prime my models white, then add the army painter primer, but that is more of a personal choice than anything. Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions. Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I have used their spray paints and primers and were happy with them. Normally I just buy my spray paints from the hardware store and have come to the conclusion that spray paint is spray paint. Stay away from anything that says "2X coverage" or "1 coat" sprays because that just means the paint is thick and gloppy. So all in all, the Army Painter primers were just as good as any other. I have done a dipped army, but not with Army Painter dips. I used minwax tudor, but if you want your own colors, they make a clear acrylic matte you can tint with what ever ink you like. You can get a table ready army together fast that still looks better than half of the "pro painted" stuff you see on ebay, but then that's not saying much. It is basically a heavy wash and protective coating in one step. If you want a "Best Army" look, you will still need to do more work than base coat dip and drybrush. In any case, while I have not used their dipps, the products I have used from Army Painter have been good and reliable quality so I would think their dip would be as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 While I can't completely agree with Redfinger, I can see what he is saying. In my opinion, some techniques are just inferior to others, but that is very subjective. At the end of the day, the only person who needs to be happy with the results is you, the owner of the army. Do it how you want to do it, but be open to ideas, and willing to try things. You shouldn't just completely dismiss something because it doesn't fit with your method. Dipping is just the 'one size fits all' method of applying a Glaze/Wash. Instead of selectively placing Wash where you want it, it goes over the entire model in one massive coat. While it's a very simple method it actually produces a pleasing result, as we've been shown. It's not cheating or inferior, it's just different. I personally prefer the control of placing Glaze selectively, since a dip covers (and thus changes) everything, it's not for me. Now that you've see what it will actually do, only you can choose if it will suit the look you're going for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocker Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 As you say its down to me so based on what you have all said i will try this out and see how i get on with dipping like the look you get. Since i'm a complete beginner i think this might be a good way to get a nice looking army the quickest and get playing! Thanks one again my brothers! Chris Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdOfEntity Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 It should be noted that Space Marines are one of the best candidates for dipping. I don't like using dips, but that's because of preference. I've seen Space Marines and Tyranids come out with pretty nice finishes. An observation: Dipping probably works best with a model that uses mostly analagous colours and sticks to mostly warm or mostly cool. A model that uses a paint scheme of complimentary colours might not be such a good candidate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocker Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yeah i am gonna build a blood angel army and have found a great colour scheme for dipping with so gonna get it organised and will post over the next couple of months and let you know how i get on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutlassCam Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Haven't seen the site myself, but whilst I'm no expert, I wouldn't recommend 'dipping', you're much better off doing it with a brush. An opinion borne from ignorance..... When I said "I'm no expert", I think I pretty much established that my opinion was borne from ignorance; so thanks for your pointless diatribe. I just didn't think dipping would be an accurate enough technique to be effective, but it seems you have proved me wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I'd recommend Army Painter basecoat sprays to anyone, they are brilliant. My one piece of advice would be that less is more with them though, if you're not careful you can swamp out detail from your minis. Go for it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2929216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkenedsquire Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I just did a Review of the Army painter spray over at my blog Paints and patience which I've been using to paint all my blood angel models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2930721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 As a side note, if you get the Army Painter superglue, beware that it dries in the tip. When I went to use some new superglue I got from an LGS a couple of days after purchase, I had to remove the top so that I could use the superglue inside (with a toothpick). It was my own fault for not checking, really. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2930756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoldType Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I painted my 1500pts in 2 weekends with army painter dip, i swear by it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2930759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdOfEntity Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 As a side note, if you get the Army Painter superglue, beware that it dries in the tip. When I went to use some new superglue I got from an LGS a couple of days after purchase, I had to remove the top so that I could use the superglue inside (with a toothpick). It was my own fault for not checking, really. :P Keep sewing needles for just such an occasion! Zap-a-Gap used to do that to me all the time. Usually you can chip it out with a sturdy needle that's just a touch smaller than the tip. @BoldType How many models, dude? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2930834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazychib Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Has anybody tried the Army Painter brushes? I'm starting to hate my GW ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2931255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Not sure about Army Painter specifically, but I can say if you get a high quality Kolinsky Sable brush in general, you'll be happy with it. Windsor & Newton Series 7 is one of the more recognizable brands, and the ones I use, but there are other good ones. They will cost about 2-to-3 times more then an 'average' brush, but they will perform much better, and if you treat them well, they last for years. I still have my first W&N Series 7 #0 that is 6+ years old, and even though it's missing some bristles, it still has a good tip with no splitting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2931294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoggoth Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I'm quite happy with the Army Painter primers and super glue. Not so much with the brushes. Seems to me they wear out a lot faster than other brands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242284-the-army-painter-products/#findComment-2931299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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