Scorn Emperor Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 When I wash my models it makes the armor look dirty. Do I need to add something to the wash or water it down more? Or is the color of the wash too far from what I'm working with? I've got Blood Angels I'm trying to paint fairly quickly, but to a nice degree. My process: - Black Primer - 1 coat Dark Flesh - 1 coat Blood Red - Wash Badab Black - Blood Red on armor surfaces - Highlight Blazing Orange - Wash 50/50 Baal Red & Leviathan Purple This gives me the red color I'm looking for, but the badab black wash makes the armor look dirtier than I've seen other people get using a similar process. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I think, perhaps, you need to stick the Badab Black in recesses, if you must use it on red. Or maybe you don't need it at all. Have you tried things without Badab Black? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2930595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Try swapping Badab Black with Devlan Mud on a test model, or use less Black and see how that turns out. Maybe post a picture of your newest model, it makes it easier for us to see what is going on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2930600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Consider this. Maybe do a 75:25 of Baal Red and Badab Black to darken it up, might help you by keeping a slight red hue :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2930710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Add a drop of dish soap (aka washup liquid) to your wash. It breaks the surface tension of the wash and allows it to flow into the recesses instead of staying on the flat parts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2930727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Like any problem, there's usually more than one option to fix it. No one idea/opinion is necessarily 100% right, including my own. That said... When working with Washes/Glazes I find doing a very thin layer first starts the effect, then once that's dry, go in with further layers that are very intentionally placed, and blended from there. Trying to do several all-over layers will do just what you're saying (doing one of two things, or both) 'contaminating' colours by making the colour 'dirty', or darkening it too much. It's the price you'll pay for convenience, since selectively placing layers is more work. I would combine suggestions. First, switch the order up. Do your Red+Purple wash first, over everything that needs it, and let it dry completely. Then go in and add the Black wash (Maybe even a Black+Red+Purple wash to make it match even more) to the places where you want to add extra shadow. Simple blobs and streaks are all you need, and use an second clean damp brush to smooth/blend the edges of the blobs and streaks. Washes are very forgiving, and can be poked, stabbed, dragged, and smeared to get all sorts of desirable effects. Just remember that edges of blended wash will be dark, and many times will vanish once dry. A little practice will show you what I mean. Just be careful not to 'work' fresh wash too much, if it's on a previous layer of wash that's just dried. Freshly dried wash is still a bit soft, and can get 'rubbed loose' by working another layer. Again practice will show you what I mean. And finally, as others have said, you might want to remove the Black wash completely, and go with another colour. Devlan Mud was suggested, and it would be a good place to start. It's a Brown-Black wash, and shadowed Red is brown most times. Another option might be Gryphonne Sepia (one of my favorite washes) which is a pale Orange-Brown wash. That Orange-Brown colour (maybe with a bit of Red and/or Purple) should add some rich shadow that is Brown, not 'dirty' Black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2930749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorn Emperor Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 Thanks! This is excellent information. I'll probably go to the GW shop tomorrow and pick up a couple of these other colors of wash and see if I can get better results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2931081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliostro Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 another quick tip: Before washing, gloss varnish the whole model AND use the drop of soap in the wash. The wash will not pool on flat surfaces and get better into the recesses than without varnishing. When finished and everything is dry, apply the decals (there shouldn't be any silvering because of the gloss varnish) and then varnish matte the whole model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2931229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkenedsquire Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The washing up liquid is a really good idea and it's something I totally forgot I could add to washes thank you for reminding me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242395-dirty-wash/#findComment-2933926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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