lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hi everybody, after 3 tries with the BA, I am planning to build a small Lamenters' battleforce ( 2500 points will be the final goal). Can I use the DC kit or they are too linked with BA? I am planning to mix all kits, DC, tactical/assault marines and SG. S.one can help me? Thanks guys.. (sorry for the language mistakes, I'm not a native english speaker) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 You should be fine utilising Death Company parts - the Lamenters are a successor chapter to the Blood Angels after all. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thank you bro.. And what about the insigna? IA IX badab war part one indicates that they use standard codex insigna, while BA codex indicates that they use BA insigna..what source should I follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's up to you, really. It's your army. ^_^ Which one do you like better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 The BA's :D the other ones are for codex astartes fan, not for the sons of sangunius.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I'll point out that even the BA's have, on occasion, used one of the many variations on codex insignia... Can you honestly tell me that amongst the squad designation options suggested, there isnt one for helmet colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I won't use the BA helmet scheme (red for tactical marine, yellow for assault marine, blue devastator and golden for veterans).. BA uses standard codex organization for the ten companies but they have a specific heraldry, they, for example, don't use the trim colour to show companies but uses a tear. Another example, squad designation is shown by a symbol on the knee (don't remeber wich one is).. Due to olieedan advice, i'll use this heraldry for the furthcoming Lamenters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ritter Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Forge World Badab War Lamenters use their own system of markings different than the blood angels and closer to codex chapters. They usually wear their company number on the right shoulder or left/right knee plate and their squad marking in the same places. These are interchanged or together. Sergeants and Veterans have a helmet stripe down the middle. The Blood Angels codex Lamenters are similar except with company and squad marking both on the right shoulder and the squad color (similar to helmet color for BA) on the left knee. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110318072437/warhammer40k/images/thumb/2/2a/Mark_VII_Artificer_Vet_Sergeant.jpg/335px-Mark_VII_Artificer_Vet_Sergeant.jpg This would be a Veteran Sergeant of a 5th Company Assault Squad http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110318072239/warhammer40k/images/thumb/e/e6/Mark_VII_Battle-Brother.jpg/332px-Mark_VII_Battle-Brother.jpg This is a Battle Brother of a 5th Company Assault Squad http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m850195a_WEB_BA_scsrs_2_zoom.jpg This would be a Battle Brother of the 5th Company Tactical Squad (notice the red knee plate similar to BA red helmets) Pre and post Badab war Lamenters, never being close to full strength, are quite fluid in their organization so it would be common to have squads from multiple companies in the same force. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Yeah I know, I have IA IX :P but in the BA Codex (Italian version) is written :" BA created a lot of successor chapters, that follow their heraldry scheme, except Vampires (Blood Drinkers in english) that follow the standard codex schemes". I'll probably use the BA hereldry, for 2 main reasons..First one: I bought 20 shoulder pads with the tear :) http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1110192 Second one: I like BA heraldry scheme.. Ah, BC ritter, thank you, I know now how to show the tactical, devastator and assault designation :) Never think about the left knee :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hi again fellow sons of Sanguinius.. In this very long project I have encountered another enemy :) THE HONOR GUARD :) I have to build the command squad for Lorenzo Aaro Volturno my 3rd Company Captain.. I planned to mix together the SG box with the Dc one and the command squad one.. Option 1: Chests from the Sg and legs from Dc, oh and also jump packs from the Dc too. Option 2: chests from the Sg and legs from Sg, while j. p. from the Dc box. Colour scheme: it's simple, gold or yellow? :) Please brothers, help me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Colour scheme: it's simple, gold or yellow? :) Both :) I'm planning on my honour guard being yellow bodies and gold helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 I think I'll use heads without helmets brother :teehee: I'm sorry.. But I keep in mind your suggestion.. Anyway, for now the main problem is about building them :P So....Sg+Dc legs OR only Sg? ( the jump packs will be the DC ones in any case ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I do my Lamenters according mostly to codex color schemes. However, the most obvious non-codex feature of their heraldry and tactical markings is that the shoulders for their chapter badge and squad markings are inversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m850195a_WEB_BA_scsrs_2_zoom.jpg This would be a Battle Brother of the 5th Company Tactical Squad (notice the red knee plate similar to BA red helmets) This assumes that: 1) The artist of that picture was operating on the same marking conventions as the later Imperial Armour artist. and 2) The guy labelling the pictures in Imperial Armour 9 actually knew what he was doing with the Lamenters and wasn't just playing pin the tail on the donkey like he was with several other chapters. If not then its quite likely the 5 is the squad number and the red kneepad is in fact the company colour, as it is with the Eagle Warriors, Rampagers and Sons of Guilliman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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