Eberious Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hello, I never used a matt varnish or dullcoat to protect paint on my stuff. Mainly looking for what you guys use(best stuff) and where to get it (UK only). Have found some on one site but says I have to use a varnish 1st. So I guess any advice on using this product as a whole would be great. Any help greatly welcomed, thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todosi Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Testor's Dullcote is the only way to go! Use one light coat and let it dry completely. If it's not completely matte, hit it with a second light coat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2944604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I've had mixed results with spray dullcote (most likely due to my own skills and not due to the actual product). So I searched for a way to protect my models with a matte finish that was easier to apply than spray dullcote because I hated when the spray dullcote would sometimes orange peel or get frosty. After searching I came across using Future Floor Polish and Tamiya Flat medium as a brush on. You can read all about it here The Complete Future They suggest a 3:1 Future to Tamiya ratio for very flat and 10:1 for flat. I've been using 5:1 (or was it 6:1) and I've been liking the results. I know my post sucks without the pics to show you the results so I will try to get some to post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2944675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Ive heard bad things about the dullcote stuff, and you must wear a mask when using the matt varnishes as they are even more harmful than normal sprays! I personally use the GW matt varnish and i think its worth the money. Only issue i ever had was a white frosting when spraying too close to a model. Do a test first to get the knack of how much to apply and from what distance to spray and you should be fine with any matt varnishes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2944858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Tiberus Satio Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 You don't have to use the spray if you are uncomfortable with it either, they have the pot of varish you brush lightly on. There are similar products that come in liquid form if you wish to brush it on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2944876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsoevil Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Problem with just using Dullcote is it tends to wear off. I spray all my models with Krylon Triple Thick Gloss, which give them a nice thick protective layer. Then I spray that with Dullcote and they come out perfectly matte and protected from wear and tear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2945040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I have been using the Vallejo Gloss varnish from an airbrush, then hitting it with the matt varnish once gloss is dry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2945092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Sorry for ressing this thread, but as i have only acces to GW Satin Spray, or Vallejo varnishes out of a pot, which ones are the best? I'm making imperial fists, and don't want them to shine, at all, but still be a clear yellow. (Vallejo Model Colour Matt Varnish is the one i'm thinking, but unsure as i never used it) Thanks in advance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2994384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 If only those two; I'd spray with GW Satin for proper protection, and brush on the Matt to dull it. Matt varnish (especially brushed on) won't give nearly as much protection compared to Satin, and next, Gloss. As long as you are not heavy handed with either layer, you should have no problems with major colour change or dulling. You can't avoid at least a little change in colour once varnish is applied, but it's usually not enough to get worked up over. Varnish will effect dry powder weathering effects much more however, so that's a case you'll need to do some experiments with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2994415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why i'm wondering, is because i just finished my metal Lysander, and while painting i already noticed paint going off at certain spots, vallejo model colour not that good on metal.. So i will need to give it some protection. So GW satin varnish, lightly sprayed, then lightly brushed matt varnish, got ya. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2994423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I use Winsor & Newton Galeria acrylic mediums matt varnish. I spray this on with an air brush (I've even used the GW flamer). The bonus with this varnish is you can apply with a brush when needed, it's water based acrylic for easy cleaning and thining, It won't yellow with age and it's never not dried clear for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2994465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 How is the army painter anti shine? Because i really would like if my Lysander didn't shine. Atm it has a layer of Matt varnish from Vallejo (with brush) http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l579/UltraWaarom/Imperial%20Fists/DSC01922.jpg Thanks in advance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2994953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I use Winsor & Newton Galeria acrylic mediums matt varnish. I spray this on with an air brush (I've even used the GW flamer). The bonus with this varnish is you can apply with a brush when needed, it's water based acrylic for easy cleaning and thining, It won't yellow with age and it's never not dried clear for me. +1 for the W&N here. It's AWESOME stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2994968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 For a moment I thought this topic was called "Matt vanish". So close... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2995001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 For a moment I thought this topic was called "Matt vanish".So close... Haha! Very good ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2995579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Problem with just using Dullcote is it tends to wear off. I spray all my models with Krylon Triple Thick Gloss, which give them a nice thick protective layer. Then I spray that with Dullcote and they come out perfectly matte and protected from wear and tear. This is exactly what I do. One solid coat of the Krylon, and then one or two quick coats of the Dullcote. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242780-matt-varnish/#findComment-2995588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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