paolo1023 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Forgive me if this has already been asked somewhere but: Do you reckon the lord of the rings Wargs would be good models to use as fenrisian wolves? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric the Silvercoat Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 They would work great. They are the right size and everything. Just remember you can't use them in Tournments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2935944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo1023 Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 EXCELLENT!! And about the tournaments, i don't play in GW tournies but where i play in them, they are pretty relaxed about things like that. In fact, one im entering next week, in the rule pack it describes the minimum point models need to be assembled to and it says "Glue not required" so i reckon me using Wargs for wolves would be fine :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2935948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjfelber Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Ive never seen a tourney that would have an issue using GW models. It when you use off brand they have an issue. I personally would use the Wolves from Goblin riders. They look better to me anyway. The Wargs look a bit Bat-like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2935960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric the Silvercoat Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Ive never seen a tourney that would have an issue using GW models. It when you use off brand they have an issue. I personally would use the Wolves from Goblin riders. They look better to me anyway. The Wargs look a bit Bat-like. It isn't that its a GW model, its because its a Lord of the Rings model. For GW to make Lord of the Rings models they are under a contact that says that the Lord of the Rings models must be used as Lord of the Rings models in any GW tournment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2935973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjfelber Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Wait.... Games-Workshop is under a contract with 'LotR Company' to make LotR game. Makes Sense That contract says "GW, you are not allowed to use the model that look like the ones in the movie for anything but LotR" That contract may as well say, "We are more worried about imaginary creatures than Real Money" Effing Dumb.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2936008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverfire Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Ive never seen a tourney that would have an issue using GW models. It when you use off brand they have an issue. I personally would use the Wolves from Goblin riders. They look better to me anyway. The Wargs look a bit Bat-like. It isn't that its a GW model, its because its a Lord of the Rings model. For GW to make Lord of the Rings models they are under a contact that says that the Lord of the Rings models must be used as Lord of the Rings models in any GW tournment. Umm.. I will add my facetious logic to that by saying our Fenrisian Wolves are Warhammer moedels... so we shouldn't be using them in 40k tournaments. I like it to be honest (although I haven't seen the model in years and not sure what the scale is like) and the Goblin wolf rider wolves could be used as cyber wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2936057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I haven't used them in any tournaments but I use wargs as fenrisian wolves. I know their faces are a bit off but this is the 41st millennium things would have changed. Also they are a perfect size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2936270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Given all the viable GW options without converting them, I still recommend hornless chaos warhounds. They have excellent, dynamic poses and the thick cords of fur and fanged maws better mimic what is currently in the 5E codex descriptions of fen. wolves. The goblin wolf mounts are too stagnant in pose (and I hate their "saddle" backs and retarded faces), and the wargs look like furry, emaciated hippos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2936301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I'm with Wulfbane on this. The gobbo wolves are the worst wolves I've ever seen. The chaos warhounds just look feral which is perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2936691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo1023 Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Well, thanks for the replies! However, I have yet another question... If a long fang squad is joined by an independant character, can the character make use of the split fire rule? For instance, if I were to have a rune priest join a long fang pack with 4 lascannons. Could I fire 2 lascannons at 1 target and fire the other 2 lascannons and the rune priest's living lightning at a second target? Or would he no longer be part of the pack? Or would the pack lose the ability to split fire completely? Thanks again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2937173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Well, thanks for the replies! However, I have yet another question... If a long fang squad is joined by an independant character, can the character make use of the split fire rule? For instance, if I were to have a rune priest join a long fang pack with 4 lascannons. Could I fire 2 lascannons at 1 target and fire the other 2 lascannons and the rune priest's living lightning at a second target? Or would he no longer be part of the pack? Or would the pack lose the ability to split fire completely? Thanks again! IIRC you have to shoot with the RP if he joins the squad.Remember the squad can only split fire if theres a LF squad leader Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2937177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 i play it as you described, the RP and 2 fangs shoot here, and the rest of the pack can shoot elsewhere, as long as the Pack Leader is alive of course. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2937189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo1023 Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS!! If a wolf lord is accompanied by fenrisian wolves, can he still go in a drop pod with them? Basically can I put a wolflord, 2 wolves and 5 grey hunters in a drop pod? Second, can I allocate wounds against my wolf lord on to the wolves? Thirdly, warrior born. Does the opponents assault phase count as 'the next assault phase'. Do I have to kill stuff in my opponents assault phase to get the bonus in my own assault phase? And finally, my wolf lord has warrior born. Being 'wargear' do whatever the wolves kill count towards the amount of attacks the lord gains in the next turn? I.e, wolf lord and his wolves charge in, lord kills 4 and the wolves kill 2 between them. In the next turn, does the lord get 4 or 6 attacks? Sorry to ask so many questions. Haven't played wolves much yet and am still 'learning the ropes'... Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2939260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS!! If a wolf lord is accompanied by fenrisian wolves, can he still go in a drop pod with them? Basically can I put a wolflord, 2 wolves and 5 grey hunters in a drop pod? Second, can I allocate wounds against my wolf lord on to the wolves? Thirdly, warrior born. Does the opponents assault phase count as 'the next assault phase'. Do I have to kill stuff in my opponents assault phase to get the bonus in my own assault phase? And finally, my wolf lord has warrior born. Being 'wargear' do whatever the wolves kill count towards the amount of attacks the lord gains in the next turn? I.e, wolf lord and his wolves charge in, lord kills 4 and the wolves kill 2 between them. In the next turn, does the lord get 4 or 6 attacks? Sorry to ask so many questions. Haven't played wolves much yet and am still 'learning the ropes'... Thanks! 1. I believe so, but each wolf takes up 2 slots if i remember right. 2. In shooting yes. In close combat, your opponent decides if he is attacking the IC or the wolves 3. I think so. I believe this might have been FAQ'd. 4. No, its only the kills the IC makes, not his wolves. And in answer to your split fire question earlier, it definitely can be done. The only time you might have an issue is if you had 2 ICs (say 2 Rune Priests). They would probably have to fire at the same target, as it is the long fangs that are actually "splitting" off and firing at a different target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2939305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 1. i'll look up and get back. pretty sure they just take up an extra slot. (so 2) 2. if your lord is alone with the wolves, not in a unit, then you spread wounds as normal. (everybody takes one and so on). in 3rd ed we could simply place wounds from lord to wolves, but no more. 3, yes, your opponents assault phase is the next turn for the saga. so plan those assaults carefully. 4. only the lords kills go to the tally. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2939492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Regarding #2, Heimdall's response is less vague than Kieran's. In close combat, ICs are able to be singled out, making it the only time in which you cannot allocate wounds to your wolves or pack. Should your opponent not direct his attacks or announce whether he is singling out your Wolf Lord prior to rolling, then you can disperse any wounds received into your pack and/or wolves at your discretion. In any other circumstance, the wolves are essentially ablative wounds with a statline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2939585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 a pretty decent statline btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242802-fenrisian-wolf-models/#findComment-2939627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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